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Old 07-07-2007, 11:54 AM
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Cold air box for the Roe supercharger?

There are a couple of reasons I decided to do this project, some practical, some cosmetic.

Althugh I love the supercharger, I'm not crazy about the Roe hood intake baffle/shield assembly. Not only does it detract from the beauty of the blower assembly, but if it actually funnels the cold air into the filter, it is then robbing the engine compartment of its share of cooling air circulation.

In all honesty, maybe this was a solution looking for a problem, but the bottom line is I had to get it out of my system, and now here it is, to the best of my knowledge, the first Roe with CAI box.

I scavenged a JMB intake elbow and cold air box, which I had to cut in order to fit the wider intake tubing. Used two 4" O.D. 45-deg stainless steel elbows, joined together with black 4" I.D. flex tube and stainless clamps. The transition to the oval filter intake was made with a 4" section of 4.5" O.D. aluminum tubing, shaped into an oval, and a black reducer boot (4.5" I.D to 4" I.D).

The Methanol injection nozzle remained in the bracket inside the filter, so the meth supply tube was simply rerouted. I figured the engine should be safe with the meth having to travel the extra 18" before going into the throttle body... besides the longer "dwell" time of the mist may allow for further evapotation and therefore further cooling of the air before going into the blower, but that is pure speculation on my part.

The PCV tube fitting and air temp sensors were installed on the rubber JMB elbow.

The front grill baffle on the passenger side was removed so air will flow straight into the box.

I haven't done much driving with it yet, just enough to know I haven't screwed anything up. I don't expect any noticeable performance increases, but at least I know both the intake and the engine compartment are getting their share of fresh air.

Plus, I think she looks purty as hell!!!










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I too am put off by the Roe Air Flow box...have never used it...will give it to anyone that wants it...

Your solution is unique and creative.
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Very nice!

I like it much better....your right, it focuses your attention on the mods not the stubby filter.

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Nice job.

I agree, I never thought the Roe looked all that nice the way it was. Not saying it was bad, but it could have looked better.
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Ahhhhh, and I see that you are another "wrapper" of your headers...I plan to unwrap this winter and have the long tubes coated!
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There are a couple of reasons I decided to do this project, some practical, some cosmetic.

Althugh I love the supercharger, I'm not crazy about the Roe hood intake baffle/shield assembly. Not only does it detract from the beauty of the blower assembly, but if it actually funnels the cold air into the filter, it is then robbing the engine compartment of its share of cooling air circulation.

In all honesty, maybe this was a solution looking for a problem, but the bottom line is I had to get it out of my system, and now here it is, to the best of my knowledge, the first Roe with CAI box.

I scavenged a JMB intake elbow and cold air box, which I had to cut in order to fit the wider intake tubing. Used two 4" O.D. 45-deg stainless steel elbows, joined together with black 4" I.D. flex tube and stainless clamps. The transition to the oval filter intake was made with a 4" section of 4.5" O.D. aluminum tubing, shaped into an oval, and a black reducer boot (4.5" I.D to 4" I.D).

The Methanol injection nozzle remained in the bracket inside the filter, so the meth supply tube was simply rerouted. I figured the engine should be safe with the meth having to travel the extra 18" before going into the throttle body... besides the longer "dwell" time of the mist may allow for further evapotation and therefore further cooling of the air before going into the blower, but that is pure speculation on my part.

The PCV tube fitting and air temp sensors were installed on the rubber JMB elbow.

The front grill baffle on the passenger side was removed so air will flow straight into the box.

I haven't done much driving with it yet, just enough to know I haven't screwed anything up. I don't expect any noticeable performance increases, but at least I know both the intake and the engine compartment are getting their share of fresh air.

Plus, I think she looks purty as hell!!!









Very nice, I/we have been tinkering with the same idea using some spare parts here.
Looks like you beat me to the punch... let me know how much better it performs vs the initial set up..and did you have Methanol installed on your system...I did not see it on the CAI set up?
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Hey thats... "cool" very creative. i was thinking the same thing!. was just wondering about some head loss through those turns..

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I came inches away from purchasing the ROE setup last month but something about the filter blocking the hood scoop for cooling the motor and the idea that a VEC III would be used in the mix made me decide to wait and go with the Paxton at a later date..

Mike, (with the possibility of a rebuke) although you did a hell of a job to correct the "filter as the center of attraction" issue I am going to have to tell the truth on what I think. After spending so much money for your ROE I don't agree with you having to put together your own set up to remedy ANYTHING. If I were dropping close to $10k on this I would want it to be trouble free both functionally and visually without me having to put in an effort. In that case you should get some funds back for improving it. However, that's just my $0.02 and personal opinion so chastise me all you want.
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good job but personally I think the filter sitting on top of the blower looks killer
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I don't think we are all talking the same issue...Mike was talking about hot air deflector that Roe uses to keep the hot air from lower in the engine compartment from coming directly into the air filter on the front of the throttle body...I too have not liked the look this created...it is not an issue with performance (yet) it is an issue of esthetic's...here is a picture of the deflector that I have chosen to not use due to "looks"...Mike has addressed the issue in a more creative way...

Notice the dust on my deflector...it sits in the garage...

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