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First oil change since I bought the srt. I prefer to use castrol 5-30 syntech what do you think? Thanks, Bud
 
ya got an '04 or '05???
 
anything synthetic will work fine, you will find some that say go with what is on the oil cap, religuously;) but 5w30 should do you jsut fine sir.
 
34bud said:
First oil change since I bought the srt. I prefer to use castrol 5-30 syntech what do you think? Thanks, Bud




FYI Ref, Castrol Syntech:dontknow:




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Read this on another board and posted a few months ago.

Castrol Syntec is NOT a full synthetic no matter how they choose to advertise and decieve us. Actually, it might be depending on what definition you use for the word "synthetic." Castrol Syntec was reformulated in late 98. Before Syntec was reformulated, it was actually a full synthetic using a full synthetic base stock with PAO's just like Mobil 1 , Amsoil, and 90% of the synthetics out there. Once Syntec was reformulated in late 98, it was known that Syntec did not contain any PAO's. In fact, Syntec uses a Group III base stock which is a hydrocracked highly refined mineral oil with some synthetic additives. This is no secret, Mobil filed a complaint with the National Advertising Division of the Council of Better Business Bureaus alleging that Castrol was engaging in false advertising by claiming their Group III based Syntec was "fully synthetic." The NAD rulled that based on the evidence put forth, Group III base oil could legitmately be called "synthetic" ... even if they ARE NOT.

The NAD is merely a self-regulatory arm of the BBB and has no legal standing whatsoever in the U.S. Hence, their ruling in this matter does not make it "legal" to claim that a Group III oil is "synthetic." It merely means that for any entity willing to abide by the NAD's guidelines, a Group III oil can be ADVERTISED under those guidelines as a synthetic. The BBB certainly does not know motor oils.

If the base stock was a highly refined Group III base oil, then how could Castrol rightfully and legally call it a full synthetic? Unfortunately, Mobil lost the battle because of how the term "full synthetic" is defined by the API or SAE(can't remember which one). A full synthetic motor oil is defined on it's ability to perform, not by what it's made or composed of. The scam here, is that if a company takes a cheapa$$ dino oil, hydrocrack it, add a few synthetic additives, and it ends up meeting the minimum specifications of how a synthetic oil is supposed to perform, then the manufacturer is allowed by this vague and deceptive definition to sell and market thier oil as a "full synthetic!!!" If you guys like Castrol Syntec, that's fine because it's a good oil. But don't expect it to be a full synthetic oil composed of Diethers(Redline), or PAO's(Mobil 1, Amsoil, etc....)because it's not.

Castrol Syntec sells for $4 a quart around here, therefore if you would like an oil that is marketed as a full synthetic, yet is not a full synthetic, then you have many choices that cost a lot less. There was a controversy on thsi topic over on LS1 about 2-3 years ago over the Syntec issue, and Castrol not only threatened a lawsuit against a couple individuals and Amsoil as well, and they forced them to remove those articles that "exposed" the truth about Castrol Syntec.

...This is from a Ford truck message board I used to do a little browsing on.

I would not use any oil from a company that lies!




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I have had no problems out of Mobil 1 0w/40, good pressure, never noticed it burn any out either:rock:
 
supercar1of1 said:

FYI Ref, Castrol Syntech:dontknow:




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Read this on another board and posted a few months ago.

Castrol Syntec is NOT a full synthetic no matter how they choose to advertise and decieve us. Actually, it might be depending on what definition you use for the word "synthetic." Castrol Syntec was reformulated in late 98. Before Syntec was reformulated, it was actually a full synthetic using a full synthetic base stock with PAO's just like Mobil 1 , Amsoil, and 90% of the synthetics out there. Once Syntec was reformulated in late 98, it was known that Syntec did not contain any PAO's. In fact, Syntec uses a Group III base stock which is a hydrocracked highly refined mineral oil with some synthetic additives. This is no secret, Mobil filed a complaint with the National Advertising Division of the Council of Better Business Bureaus alleging that Castrol was engaging in false advertising by claiming their Group III based Syntec was "fully synthetic." The NAD rulled that based on the evidence put forth, Group III base oil could legitmately be called "synthetic" ... even if they ARE NOT.

The NAD is merely a self-regulatory arm of the BBB and has no legal standing whatsoever in the U.S. Hence, their ruling in this matter does not make it "legal" to claim that a Group III oil is "synthetic." It merely means that for any entity willing to abide by the NAD's guidelines, a Group III oil can be ADVERTISED under those guidelines as a synthetic. The BBB certainly does not know motor oils.

If the base stock was a highly refined Group III base oil, then how could Castrol rightfully and legally call it a full synthetic? Unfortunately, Mobil lost the battle because of how the term "full synthetic" is defined by the API or SAE(can't remember which one). A full synthetic motor oil is defined on it's ability to perform, not by what it's made or composed of. The scam here, is that if a company takes a cheapa$$ dino oil, hydrocrack it, add a few synthetic additives, and it ends up meeting the minimum specifications of how a synthetic oil is supposed to perform, then the manufacturer is allowed by this vague and deceptive definition to sell and market thier oil as a "full synthetic!!!" If you guys like Castrol Syntec, that's fine because it's a good oil. But don't expect it to be a full synthetic oil composed of Diethers(Redline), or PAO's(Mobil 1, Amsoil, etc....)because it's not.

Castrol Syntec sells for $4 a quart around here, therefore if you would like an oil that is marketed as a full synthetic, yet is not a full synthetic, then you have many choices that cost a lot less. There was a controversy on thsi topic over on LS1 about 2-3 years ago over the Syntec issue, and Castrol not only threatened a lawsuit against a couple individuals and Amsoil as well, and they forced them to remove those articles that "exposed" the truth about Castrol Syntec.

...This is from a Ford truck message board I used to do a little browsing on.

I would not use any oil from a company that lies!




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i have heard that;) good info

i stick with mobil 1:rock: :rock:
 
Stinker said:
i have heard that;) good info

i stick with mobil 1:rock: :rock:



I used to have a lot of good info, but it's kind of dated(like me!:eek: )nowdays.



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what ever yo do ...................
listen to these guys , the knowledge you can get from the vtcoa is superb.
i asked the question and was recommended mobil1 . so i used mobil 1 .
also if you become a supporting member you get acces to the diy thread which has saved me alot of time and money ,
there are some good rite ups on there too.

all the best scott :rock:
 
Bud, in my opinion there are several different issues to consider:

If you are under warranty my advice is to use the lubricants recommended by the manufacturer.

Once the warranty is past, then the conditions and the use of the vehicle should be your guide. Interestingly, the manufacturer of our six-speeds recommends Mobile ATF for their transmissions. Dodge recommends something much more viscous.

If you are in a geographical area with extreme temperatures that should be considered in your selection. I only drive the truck in spring summer and early fall. If you are in a very hot area that should change your choice in my mind.

My choice for lubricants is Royal Purple...15w50. Because I like the shape and color of the containers!!! :eek: :D
 
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Prof said:
My choice for lubricants is Royal Purple...15w50. Because I like the shape and color of the containers!!! :eek: :D


Purple color... Odd shape... Almost sounds like a genitalia reference Roy. :dontknow: And throwing in the word “lubricantâ€￾ just seals the deal..:D
 
You need to get back to the states asap!

But you are probably right...the real thing escapes me these days, so surrogates are always welcome.
 
I keep saying it over and over again...... Walmart has our OEM Mopar oil filters real cheap. It's worth picking up a bunch as it'll save you in the long run.
 

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