Headers

Discussion in 'Performance Mods' started by jj2329, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. jj2329

    jj2329 Full Access Member

    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    Searcy, AR
    How much power increase would I see from long tubes and which brands are best? I have a stock '04 RC with no cats.
     
  2. mysrt10

    mysrt10 Been there, done that Supporting Member

    Messages:
    806
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Location:
    Joliet,IL
    Power increases vary but, 25-30 average, sometimes a little more. American Racing, Belanger, Billy Boat, and Mopar Performance would be your options. All very good quality but, you will get many different opinions. Only downside to the mopar set is a 2.5" collector versus the others all having a 3" collector.

    If you find a used set of any, jump on them, they don't last long. If price isn't of concern just buy the cheapest set you find listed by a vendor on this site. You'll be happy with the results!
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2013
  3. jj2329

    jj2329 Full Access Member

    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    Searcy, AR
    Appreciate the info!
     
  4. Yellow venom

    Yellow venom Boosted Venom Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta,Canada
    I agree with the power increase,but dont let the 2.5" collector size compared to the 3" collector size persuade your decision,I really dont think and havent seen any proof of it affecting HP differences unless you are up in the 1000 RWHP range or better.
     
  5. Sammy11

    Sammy11 Active Member Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,677
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2008
    Location:
    Belgium
    i have the Belangers and love them...;)
     
  6. blackmamba

    blackmamba Full Access Member

    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Location:
    Smyrna TN
    I am running American Racing Headers. Best headers I have ever used. Easy fit. Every nice. As far as power, they all make about the same.
     
  7. VENOMOUS1 RACING

    VENOMOUS1 RACING Has Left the Room - Banned from VTCOA!

    Messages:
    12,751
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Location:
    Wacko Waco,TX
    I swear by Belanger or Bassani but since Bassani no longer makes them....Belanger FTW!:chain:
     
  8. Trainman

    Trainman Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Messages:
    2,376
    Likes Received:
    49
    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Location:
    Bakersfield, Ca
    For what it's worth, let me offer this.....I have MoFo headers (on my stock engine) which are very similar in design to the Belanger, just a different power cone inside. They are basically a tri-Y header and not true equal length headers. But in talking with Chris Jensen about my upcoming Gen IV head conversion, he said the American Racing Headers 5 into 1 design made the most power in the Viper cars he tuned. Therefore I have a custom made ARH 1 7/8 race headers 5 into 1 for my new engine. The MoPar headers may also be equal length....I suspect not a big difference in any of the long tubes...so go for the best deal.
     
  9. NSDQ

    NSDQ Full Access Member

    Messages:
    1,842
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Location:
    Clarksville, TN
    I went from 403 stock to 444 after adding BB long tubes, BB catless mids, MBRP catback, and larger TB plus tune.
     
  10. Yellow venom

    Yellow venom Boosted Venom Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta,Canada
    Well said Trainman, the Mopar LT's are the only equal length header out there other then maybe some custom ones made, I like the equal length idea being the same idea and Mopar probably spent a few bucks testing them too :)
     
  11. Mopar

    Mopar Full Access Member

    Messages:
    1,076
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Location:
    western colorado
    Its a shame there not made anymore.
     
  12. Trainman

    Trainman Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Messages:
    2,376
    Likes Received:
    49
    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Location:
    Bakersfield, Ca
    I checked the ARH website and they offer equal length longtubes in 1 3/4 primaries for our SRT-10 Rams. The 1 7/8 primary race tubes are available on request.
     
  13. ViperPete

    ViperPete Full Access Member

    Messages:
    2,659
    Likes Received:
    15
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2010
    Location:
    Ocala, FL
    I agree 100%. No manufacturer is probably going to spend more time R&D than Mopar for their own shit. IMO….

    For whatever reason they found that 2.5" was adequate for collectors.
     
  14. stealth78

    stealth78 Full Access Member

    Messages:
    2,611
    Likes Received:
    18
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2012
    Location:
    MA
    It's because it was designed to run along side their cam, intended for a mild build! I had a flow chart that showed a build in excess of 600 hp on a V8 benefited strongly from an increase from 2.5 to 3" in exhaust. That was the complete exhaust though.
     
  15. nightwalker

    nightwalker New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Location:
    wezep netherlands
    Just got mine with american racing headers and highflow cats
    I love it
     
  16. viperhauler

    viperhauler Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Messages:
    18,950
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    Location:
    ...in a van, down by the river...
    i think you might see 15 hp with headers only.

    you need a list of other supporting mods to benefit from headers.
     
  17. stealth78

    stealth78 Full Access Member

    Messages:
    2,611
    Likes Received:
    18
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2012
    Location:
    MA
    I agree 100%! You will instantly go from 15hp to 50hp if you add on a set of Truck Nuts and a Rebel flag!!!!
     
  18. jason002

    jason002 Full Access Member

    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Location:
    Shreveport LA
    I went with the Belanger easy fit,and I think they are still onsale right now.but in my opinion,if you want to get down to the nut cutting...you cannot beat a 5 into 1 = equal length header.
     
  19. Yellow venom

    Yellow venom Boosted Venom Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta,Canada