Bbk tb sticking

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  1. Silver05

    Silver05 Full Access Member

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    So I picked up this bbk Tb and now I'm having idle issues, so I removed it and milled some channels for the bolts to sit flat and it's still hanging, once I kick it down several times it stops, I even torqued it in a X pattern! any fix to this ? I've emailed bbk and waiting on their response, and just cause I was dealing with this bs I broke the little clip to the cruise control fml!
    Edit: I've loosened up the iac screws and no dice !
     
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  2. 68charger

    68charger Active Member Supporting Member

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    on mine the blades weren't centered so i loosened them put feeler gauges in three spots around each blade then tighten them back down
     
  3. Silver05

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    I'll try that next, do I have to buy 3 feeler gage kits? What size did you use ?
     
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    i don't remember the size .002 or .003 i think i also took the blades out and sanded the edges as well. just make sure they are centered and not catching.
     
  5. Silver05

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    Ok, today I've changed the bolts to Allen head cap screws, check the blades and there is barely any light all the way around, and actually I broke the clip to my Throttle cable and the screws I backed up were for the tps, I'm wondering if I shot myself in foot installing this , with the cables off the only way for the idle to go down from 2k rpms is to tap in the Throttle body
     
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    Everyone uses the JTVSP throttle body because of this issue. The only problem there is I ordered one literally 9 weeks ago and I still have not received it. Back ordered was an understatement. Sucks when there is no other option for throttle body so I just have to wait.
     
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    Can you feel the blades sticking?

    If not then you may need to clean the IAC.

    When I installed my JTSVP throttle body, The instructions specifically called out, how to, and importance of cleaning the IAC.

    Also look up a post from Arska2. He explains very detailed how to reset the shifting and idle with an aftermarket throttle body.
     
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    I did clean the IAC and no the blades feel clear I even took some aluminum polish and polished the TB, today it seemed to be back to normal
     
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    If you have access to a good scan tool you can go I'm and reset the tps and iac without doing a battery disconnect and resetting all the adaptive's for the truck.

    Doesn't anybody run a roe mono blade? Tonys is a choice not the only choice. I also had some issues but with some adjusting it works awesome.

    Even a cheap code reader that show some live data should work.
     
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  10. Silver05

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    Well I'm still having this issue, I just disconnected the battery cables and all 3 pcm plugs, touched the battery cables and plugged the pcm back in and cables back on, is there another thing I need to do before I restart it ?
     
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    Did you leave it unplugged for at least ten minutes? There is something about after you plug it all back in to turn the key to on and press the gas pedal to full throttle a few times then start it and drive it.
     
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    Here is the post I mentioned from Arska2. I didn't know how to link it, so I copied and pasted. This is the most detailed I've seen.


    "Voltage is adjusted by the small screw on the right upper side.

    Below you can read the instruction how i solved my idling and shifting problem on my QC :

    How To reset the shifting and idle with an aftermarket Throttle Body:

    1. Disconnect all three PCM connectors for about 10 minutes. By doing this, you are erasing the PCM adaptive memory. The PCM is located on the firewall directly above and behind the passenger side front wheel.

    2. Disconnect the TPS (throttle position sensor) on the driver’s side of the throttle body. Ensure all wire connections are correct.

    3. Disconnect the IAC (idle air control motor) on the air plenum located on the passenger side directly behind the air filter. Ensure all wire connections are correct.

    4. With the PCM disconnected, make sure the throttle cable and throttle linkage is adjusted properly for wide-open throttle. The driver’s floor mat should be removed as it can inhibit accelerator pedal travel.

    5. After wide-open throttle is verified or adjusted, reconnect the PCM, TPS and IAC connectors after 10 minutes has elapsed from the start of this procedure.

    6. Turn the key to the "on" position, but DO NOT start the engine.

    7. With the drivers floor mat out of the truck, slowly press the accelerator to full throttle, then repeat. By doing this, you are showing the TPS (throttle position sensor) full throttle. Without this information in the PCM, it will not correctly calculate how to make the engine run properly.

    8. Turn the key off then start the truck without touching the accelerator.

    9. Let the engine idle for approximately 2-3 minutes.

    10. After idling, drive easy, then progressively harder over the course of about 10-20 minutes.

    11. The truck will drive differently during the first 20-40 miles because the PCM is learning the new adaptives.

    Stolen from another forum years ago and it worked on my and other trucks ! "


    Credit to Arska2
     
  13. Silver05

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    I'm gonna try this, I removed the iac and cleaned it also, just sprayed it and lightly cleaned it, cause if you wiggle it the plunger will screw up, on that post it doesn't say anything about the battery being disconnected
     
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    Do you have access to a scan tool?
     
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    I don't think your cleaning the IAC correctly. I seemed to remember having to pull the plunger all the way out to free it up.. I got this older post from
    JTS venom performance about idle hang.

    "pull the iac , clean the port pull the iac pintle all the way out to reset, then reinstall, from there its clean and reset.

    unles you have an aftermarket tb, the tps or iac could be the culprit,

    if an aftermarket tb, it could be a number of things, but we found reseting the iac fixes most"
     
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    Had a similar issue. Did all the above.
    Ended up being a vacuum leak, cracked 5/16 hose under under the intake manifold.
     
  17. Silver05

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    I'm not getting a code or what do I need it for ?
     
  18. Silver05

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    I have another dodge, trust me twisting the plunger will screw it up !
     
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    Yeah, never pull or push on that plunger on the iAC, once you do that thing its toast and you'll need a new one period.
     
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    So you can see your data for iac and tps and you can just reset the info for the tb and don't have to Un hook everything . Now every time you start it will be learning and adjusting everything. Min tps volts and iac counts that is all the info you need.