Push rod mushroom :-(

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  1. AfricanViper

    AfricanViper Full Access Member

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    Pulled the valve covers off this weekend to troubleshoot a ticking noise coming from the right (drivers) side.
    - Visual inspection on all springs looked good...
    - Visual inspection on all rocker arms looked good...
    Wait, while moving #7 (intake) rocker arm, it lifted right up on the push rod end....that's when I noticed the push rod was laying on the side of the rocker arm - totally out of the hole/socket. Pulled it out and noticed the worst mushroom I have ever seen (see attachments) :-(

    I am about to order all push rods (hardened) - any suggestions?

    Also - see rocker arm hole/socket...do I need to replace it/all too?

    ---> 2005 Quad cab

    Thanks in advance
    Brad (aka African Viper from Wakanda) lol
     

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    At the very least You likely will need a lifer for that valve . Hopefully the lifter is just locked up and the cam lobe is ok..:dontknow:

    If it were mine entire valvetrain would be upgraded. It would also be time for a mild cam... Yank heads. New lifters, springs, pushrods and rockers. Larger valves and some head work.
     
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    Thanks "mopar-or-no-car",

    Yeah, I was thinking the same - time for a valve train upgrade.
    The problem is - I don't have any legit stealerships nearby I can trust to pull the heads and upgrade accordingly...
    I do most of my wrenching BUT the head job seems a bit too overwhelming for me (I know I WILL screw something up lol)

    - Brad
     
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    Its not to complicated just a pain in the ass at some points. Take the heads to a machine shop to have them cleaned inspected and new bigger valves put in. If its in your budget have them do a port and polish job. Your looking at an easy 5k if you did the job minus head work
     
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    Yeah, thanks "IronAffliction",

    I'm heading down that road...I'm gonna stop by this local shop (heard some good things) BUT need to speak to the main guy there and pick his brains....to hear how he plans on doing it, etc (just to get my level of comfort to a point where I can offload moola their way lol)

    ...appreciate the responses :rock:

    - Brad
     
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    Question, have you ever "over-revved" the engine? Say over 5500-6000 rpm?

    Cheers
     
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    Hey "Psycho1122",

    Nah, she's a sleeper lol
    I only take her out when the weather acts up (30 miles roundtrip) - I'm on 2 wheels most of the time.

    - Brad
     
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    Also I would replace head bolts, rocker arm bolts and lifter cradle bolts. I didn't do my lifter bolts and they backed off and toasted the motor
     
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    oh boy :-(

    Just thinking about all the possible things that could have went south for this kinda thing to happen....gives me cold shivers lol

    - Brad
     
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    Ya think you got real lucky. Don't take any chances definitely inspect and or upgrade top end
     
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    No doubt...I'm hoping to hang around the shop when the work is being done - just to have a extra set of eyes in case they overlook anything. This will also help me if I ever tried to pull the heads off later :)

    Thank you everybody for the responses...much appreciated!

    - Brad
     
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    If you change the cam you have to take off the oil pan and remove the oil pump pickup tube before you can remove the timing chain cover.
     
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    preciate it "rottenronnie" !
    Will keep that in mind when I'm at the shop.

    - Brad
     
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    Push rod mushroom

    Bikes would be great. Don't have too high of expectations, and those hills can be a real challenge to pedal up, I guess push bikes may be in order.