Considering a conversion to E85

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  1. Trainman

    Trainman Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Trainman is considering converting to E85, has any one had any dyno results on an NA engine, no power adders.? I will then use C85 at the strip.
     
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    Varies depending on setup and tune.
    NA benefits less than boosted.
    Sometimes no peak horsepower gains but 10% or more under the curve compared to say C16 race fuel.
    Uses considerably more fuel by volume.
    A definite power gain over race fuel as the stuff is around 30% oxygen.
    Tune comes into play and more timing "creates" more low and mid-range torque.
     
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    rottenronnie Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    And of course the well known stuff like required changes to the fuel system (lines, pumps, fittings, injectors) as it is corrosive and picks up moisture.

    The gain in power can be considerable though.
     
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    Nice :D
     
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    It's in the too hard basket for me.
    I am just busy trying to stay alive
    The science is very interesting and I will watch with interest
    All the best Trainman
     
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    rottenronnie Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Naaaaah... Nuttin' to it.

    Forced Induction vehicles love it because of it's cooling properties and make more power.
    NA vehicles make more torque (under the curve) with sometimes zero increase in peak power BUT still more power.
    Less BTU than gasoline and takes more of it.
    LOTS of oxygen in E85 which engines love (ie. Nitrous Oxide style results).
     
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    Just give it a little shot of giggle gas....:cool:
     
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    TE="ARRESTmeRed04, post: 1326037, member: 2894"]Just give it a little shot of giggle gas....:cool:[/QUOTE]Good to see you are still on the forum. But I am stubborn and refuse to use a power adder....75 year old grampas are like that. Going to try E85 and go to Sacramento for cool weather and really good DA. Its just the starting line I worry about, not as good a Famoso in Bakersfield. I really want a 10.90 NA ! Really good to hear from you Justin, I mean that. Jerry (Trainman)

    Here is a short video of my 6speed manual CTSV ....no nitrous

    That motor was a 416 ERL block, Trick flow 255 heads ported by Greg Good, ported LSA blower and a BTR stage 2 cam, about 800 at the wheels, but after some later runs I had 4 cracked cylinder walls.... so the new engine is almost done, 434 cubic inch, the same 255 heads , custom cam by 1LTZ on the CTSV forum, and a Kong 2650 blower ported by Greg Good, 112 TB....we expect over 1,000 RWHP.... should be fun, stand by.
     
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    Trainman Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Just so all of you know I haven't forgotten about my Viper buddies. The truck is in the shop, leaking power steering line, plus the CTSV engine build, restoring a 73 SD-455 Formula, 1 of 43, very rare, also finishing up a 2000 SLP Firehawk 430 inch LS1 with Mast 295 heads, and a Harrop Hurricaine intake, plus I'm looking for a 69 Road Runner to relive my early years...oh and I have a 64 GTO to restore......along with my 1st hobby of collecting toy trains (thus Trainman) since I got out of the Navy in 1968....over 1500 pieces and growing...so pretty busy in my retirement. Plus helping my daughter to learn how to race her 2019 Hellcat 6-speed Challenger I surprised her with on her birthday in August 2019, she was 45......and her first pass in her life she went 11.98!
     
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    Glad to see you are having fun!!
     
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    Thanks Ronnie, always good talking to you
     
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    Is that all you have, LOL! Sounds like a full time hobby. And from one sailor to another, thank you for your service. 81 - 85, HS-7 Dusty Dogs.
    I also have an HO train collection, some as old as 1965, just not as much as you. Is there a collector's value to these? Last engine I bought was probably mid 1970's. Still have all the track, buildings, cars, power packs etc. Just no place to set it up these days.
     
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    Nice to see you still kicking around, just gotta stop by every once and a while and see what yall are up to now a days.
     
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    Good to hear from you, I was on the USS Ranger CVA-61, carrier. 1966-1968, Radarman 3rd class, Navy reserve. HO trains not quite as collectable as Lionel and America Flyer toy trains. A lot of mine are from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's. If you have Brass engines they can be expensive. all are enjoyable, Most HO is more realistic than the toy trains, but I enjoy them all.
     
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    WOW!! Hi there Jerry! Nice hearing you are doing well and man o man you are a busy grandpa :cool: Your daughter is one lucky girl that's for sure! Happy Birthday to her and I hope you teach her to shift like you do. My shifting hero! Stay good and it's great you have so much going on :D
     
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    My squadron was attached to the JFK, CV67, and I was an AMS3 when I got out. Kinda wish I'd have done 20, but hindsight is 20/20. As for the trains, you've got some money sitting there.
     
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    Good to hear from you Wifey, my favorite shifting fan!
     
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    Yes quite a few trains, and I do have 1 HO brass Hudson by Westside. total collection over 1500 pieces.
     
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    When it comes to the shifting - you are the MAN!!! :cool::cool::cool:
     
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    https://www.thefoat.com/movies/12924585642c995d4.mp4 Here is an older video just for you, In the video I go through the gears twice, one showing the shifting and the 2nd time showing the tach only dropping 1,000 rpm between shifts (from 6,000 to 5,000 ) each time. Enjoy


    And 1 more with the new engine and my current best ET.
     
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