wiring question??????

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i have 12 volts coming off the start button and only 2.6 to the starter whats going on?????
 
Check power and ground at starter relay...
Looks like power comes from ignition switch and grounds through the starter switch and clutch interlock brake switch.
 
i'd start with the starter relay & see if the coils energized (12vdc)... if yes, then probably bad relay... if no, it may be your clutch switch or pcm..... :)
 
what side of the push button do you have 12vdc?

if you have it on both sides (when pushing the button), then there's a wire open.... if it's loaded down (3vdc), pull the relay & see if it goes back to 12vdc (bad relay).
 
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moparracing said:
what side of the push button do you have 12vdc?

if you have it on both sides (when pushing the button), then there's a wire open.... if it's loaded down (3vdc), pull the relay & see if it goes back to 12vdc (bad relay).
k will try that
 
if you're getting 3vdc on the relay coil & it's not bad - you may not be getting a good ground from the pcm...... you could then try your own grounding of the coil to verify this.

say, are you sure your battery is good & charged?
 
moparracing said:
if you're getting 3vdc on the relay coil & it's not bad - you may not be getting a good ground from the pcm...... you could then try your own grounding of the coil to verify this.

say, are you sure your battery is good & charged?
they said it was we jumped a wire from the push button start to the starter and the truck fired:dontknow: :dontknow:
 
ok, not bad starter or battery - still could be bad relay, wire issue between coil & start button or pcm ground....... did you verify?
 
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DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - STARTER RELAY
The starter relay (Fig. 17) is located in Power Distribution
Center (PDC). Refer to PDC cover for relay
identification and location. For complete starter relay
wiring circuit diagrams, refer to 8, Wiring Diagrams.
(1) Remove starter relay from PDC.
(2) A relay in de-energized position should have
continuity between terminals 87A and 30, and no
continuity between terminals 87 and 30. If OK, go to
Step 3. If not OK, replace faulty relay.
(3) Resistance between terminals 85 and 86 (electromagnet)
should be 75 ± 5 ohms. If OK, go to Step
4. If not OK, replace faulty relay.
(4) Connect 12V battery to terminals 85 and 86.
There should now be continuity between terminals
30 and 87, and no continuity between terminals 87A
and 30. If OK, perform Relay Circuit Test that follows.
If not OK, replace faulty relay.
RELAY CIRCUIT TEST
(1) The relay common feed terminal cavity (30) is
connected to battery voltage and should be hot at all
times. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, repair open circuit
to fuse in PDC as required.
(2) The relay normally closed terminal (87A) is
connected to terminal 30 in the de-energized position,
but is not used for this application. Go to Step 3.
(3) The relay normally open terminal (87) is connected
to common feed terminal (30) in the energized
position. This terminal supplies battery voltage to
starter solenoid field coils. There should be continuity
between cavity for relay terminal 87 and starter
solenoid terminal at all times. If OK, go to Step 4. If
not OK, repair open circuit to starter solenoid as
required.
(4) The coil battery terminal (86) is connected to
electromagnet in relay. It is energized when ignition
switch is held in Start position. On vehicles with
manual transmission, clutch pedal must be fully
depressed for this test. Check for battery voltage at
cavity for relay terminal 86 with ignition switch in
Start position, and no voltage when ignition switch is
released to On position. If OK, go to Step 5. If not
OK with automatic transmission, check for open or
short circuit to ignition switch and repair, if required.
If circuit to ignition switch is OK, refer to Ignition
Switch and Key Lock Cylinder. If not OK with a
manual transmission, check circuit between relay
and clutch pedal position switch for open or a short.
If circuit is OK, refer to Clutch Pedal Position
Switch in 6 , Clutch.
(5) The coil ground terminal (85) is connected to
the electromagnet in the relay. On vehicles with
manual transmission, it is grounded at all times. On
vehicles with automatic transmission, it is grounded
through park/neutral position switch only when gearshift
selector lever is in Park or Neutral positions.
Check for continuity to ground at cavity for relay terminal
85. If not OK with manual transmission,
repair circuit to ground as required. If not OK with
automatic transmission, check for pen or short circuit
to park/neutral position switch and repair, if
required. If circuit to park/neutral position switch is
OK, refer to Park/Neutral Position Switc
 
FSTJACK said:
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - STARTER RELAY

The starter relay (Fig. 17) is located in Power Distribution Center (PDC). Refer to PDC cover for relay identification and location. For complete starter relay wiring circuit diagrams, refer to 8, Wiring Diagrams.

(1) Remove starter relay from PDC.

(2) A relay in de-energized position should have continuity between terminals 87A and 30, and no continuity between terminals 87 and 30. If OK, go to Step 3. If not OK, replace faulty relay.

(3) Resistance between terminals 85 and 86 (electromagnet) should be 75 ± 5 ohms. If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, replace faulty relay.

(4) Connect 12V battery to terminals 85 and 86. There should now be continuity between terminals 30 and 87, and no continuity between terminals 87A and 30. If OK, perform Relay Circuit Test that follows. If not OK, replace faulty relay.

RELAY CIRCUIT TEST

(1) The relay common feed terminal cavity (30) is connected to battery voltage and should be hot at all times. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, repair open circuit to fuse in PDC as required.

(2) The relay normally closed terminal (87A) is connected to terminal 30 in the de-energized position, but is not used for this application. Go to Step 3.

(3) The relay normally open terminal (87) is connected to common feed terminal (30) in the energized position. This terminal supplies battery voltage to starter solenoid field coils. There should be continuity between cavity for relay terminal 87 and starter solenoid terminal at all times. If OK, go to Step
4. If not OK, repair open circuit to starter solenoid as required.

(4) The coil battery terminal (86) is connected to electromagnet in relay. It is energized when ignition switch is held in Start position. On vehicles with
manual transmission, clutch pedal must be fully depressed for this test. Check for battery voltage at cavity for relay terminal 86 with ignition switch in Start position, and no voltage when ignition switch is released to On position. If OK, go to Step 5. If not OK with automatic transmission, check for open or short circuit to ignition switch and repair, if required. If circuit to ignition switch is OK, refer to Ignition Switch and Key Lock Cylinder. If not OK with a manual transmission, check circuit between relay and clutch pedal position switch for open or a short. If circuit is OK, refer to Clutch Pedal Position Switch in 6 , Clutch.

(5) The coil ground terminal (85) is connected to the electromagnet in the relay. On vehicles with manual transmission, it is grounded at all times. On
vehicles with automatic transmission, it is grounded through park/neutral position switch only when gearshift selector lever is in Park or Neutral positions. Check for continuity to ground at cavity for relay terminal
85. If not OK with manual transmission, repair circuit to ground as required. If not OK with automatic transmission, check for pen or short circuit to park/neutral position switch and repair, if required. If circuit to park/neutral position switch is OK, refer to Park/Neutral Position Switch.

Cleaned it up for you, Jack... It was making me cross-eyed. :eek: :D :vollkommenauf:
 
If you have a spare relay, try swapping it out. It could also be a lose connection in the circuit, bad splice or corrosion at a terminal/connector or a wire could have pulled out from the terminal lug(s) that plugs into the connector body.
 
You don't get off that easy. So what was it?
 
505'sFastestViper. said:
lol we will talk about it later

those are always good ones, lol:five:
 

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