Interest in a smaller/more affordable Procharger setup?

Well im near completion on Jacks truck and Eric's DIY F2 Procharger kit. So I thought I would check to see if anyone would be interested in a kit based on a stock truck, but capable of making big power if you decide to build your motor. Right now we have about 5 power added choices, the Roe, Paxton and N20 are geared towards sub 700whp stock trucks, but many are breaking motors or deciding to rebuild and find themselves making the same power after 10K+ in motor upgrades. Then there is the Turbo kit I offer and the DIY F2 Procharger setup, both a pretty custom setup and intended for 1000+ WHP levels. Id like to offer a midline option, using a Procharger headunit that is noticably larger than a Paxton Novi 2000 and driven off of the stock belt system (and using the stock fan assembly). It would be capable of 650-900+ WHP and have all the inherent problems worked out from the get go, no buying a kit and then throwing half of it away to replace with better components. No relying on the weak stock tensioner, air inlets, or bandaid fuel/tuning systems. This way if your motor failed or you decided to rebuild, you can make a simple pulley swap/tune and gain 200+ whp. Im thinking somewhere in the 7K range for the entire blower and mount kit, all intercooler pipes, air to air intercooler, air intake, etc., but no tuning or fuel system (they would be offered). It would be broken down into groups so you only have to buy what you want. If you already have a big intercooler setup or your own fuel system or tuning system, then you could purchase just brackets/blower/pulleys, etc. So is anyone interested?

can't wait to see this come to life, might be interested but not until next winter

cant say that Im not

I'd be interested as well.

Not saying its not an interesting idea but the problem is in well the fuel delivery and a lot of the guys already spent decent money on there roe, paxton set up. Im right on that 700 mark with my paxton and if I wanted farther id have to build the motor but then also upgrade the fuel system too. Would your kit produce that much more in gains that a smaller pulley on the paxton couldnt get pretty close to and include a fuel sys upgrade for maybe a swap out for the paxton guys? That could make it interesting maybe:dontknow:

If I forge im going basic nothing insane and have already been in contact with dc before with my worries and they dont see a problem with me until at least 30-40000 miles range. So for 700 on the stock bottom end aint to bad but if I build 900 could be an option depending on cost.

ps already inter-cooled with a custom intercooler run.

can the boost be controlled up or down?

GotRidOfTheHemiForThis said:

Not saying its not an interesting idea but the problem is in well the fuel delivery and a lot of the guys already spent decent money on there roe, paxton set up. Im right on that 700 mark with my paxton and if I wanted farther id have to build the motor but then also upgrade the fuel system too. Would your kit produce that much more in gains that a smaller pulley on the paxton couldnt get pretty close to and include a fuel sys upgrade for maybe a swap out for the paxton guys? That could make it interesting maybe:dontknow:

If I forge im going basic nothing insane and have already been in contact with dc before with my worries and they dont see a problem with me until at least 30-40000 miles range. So for 700 on the stock bottom end aint to bad but if I build 900 could be an option depending on cost.

ps already inter-cooled with a custom intercooler run.

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The current supercharger systems only give a fuel system capable of 650whp approximately, so thats not really an issue because you would be buying a fuel system upgrade regardless of what supercharger you had. This is where I think this kit would shine because you wouldnt be investing into two fuel systems (the one that comes with the current kits, and a complete new one once you try to acheive 700+whp). Instead the money is invested into a bigger and more capable power adder. Then you can buy the right fuel system the first time (it would be an available option). A paxton alone has not been proven past approx. 700whp with a srt10 ram application (except Blake, but we cant verify that and he had N20 on his truck) regardless of pulley size. This blower is making 850-900+ on many 8 rib pulley setup cars, and the blower is capable of 1200+ HP. The big benefits would be stiffer billet brackets, manual tensioner setup, bigger blower using much bigger pulleys to make more boost, bigger pulleys = less chance of belt slip, more efficient and effective intercooling, more effective air intake, etc.

Justin

DevilDawg3097 said:

can the boost be controlled up or down?

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We are experimenting on jacks truck with a boost controller on his blower, but its not a cheap ordeal. There is a kit available to use your blow off valve to reduce boost for launching. Normally you would not have adjustable boost on any supercharger without changing pulleys. You could also change timing and fuel curves to reduce power if needed.
Justin

Id be down with that for 7 grand. Would this be offered as a do-it self style shipped and ready for install.

BlackDodge10 said:

Id be down with that for 7 grand. Would this be offered as a do-it self style shipped and ready for install.

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Yes it would be a DIY kit that I would ship with instruction, etc.
Justin

Hey Justin, do you have any pictures of the other Procharger installs u have done so i can start getting excited

hey justin break out some pictures of the charger.....do you need a quad cab for a mock up truck i will gladly bring you one

JMB Justin said:

Yes it would be a DIY kit that I would ship with instruction, etc.
Justin

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This sounds interesting Justin. :rock: :rock:

Ill post one teaser pic of Jacks truck, there is SOOO much here you cant see on the brackets. This is the DIY F2 Procharger kit:



Justin

JMB Justin said:

Ill post one teaser pic of Jacks truck, there is SOOO much here you cant see on the brackets. This is the DIY F2 Procharger kit:

Justin

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That is just sick:rock: but the mild one isnt set up like that or is it?

No, it would be driven off of the accessory belt like the roe or paxton. The big advantage though would be much larger pulleys to make the same boost, so less chance of slippage. Procharger esimates a 4" pulley to make 10psi vs. a 2.85" on a paxton to make 7-8 psi. Also it would have a manual tensioner setup and not rely on the weak stock tensioner.
Justin

JMB Justin said:

No, it would be driven off of the accessory belt like the roe or paxton. The big advantage though would be much larger pulleys to make the same boost, so less chance of slippage. Procharger esimates a 4" pulley to make 10psi vs. a 2.85" on a paxton to make 7-8 psi. Also it would have a manual tensioner setup and not rely on the weak stock tensioner.
Justin

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so it would look similar to the 5.7 hemi setup? and does this come with an intercooler or is that and option?

Justin, How much is the F2 DIY kit in the picture. Looks bad ass by the way

JMB Justin said:

No, it would be driven off of the accessory belt like the roe or paxton. The big advantage though would be much larger pulleys to make the same boost, so less chance of slippage. Procharger esimates a 4" pulley to make 10psi vs. a 2.85" on a paxton to make 7-8 psi. Also it would have a manual tensioner setup and not rely on the weak stock tensioner.
Justin

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This is great, the super tank always had an issue with the belt slipping, eating the belt due the power it was generating. Looks like a great fix. Justin I also think that your kits sound like a great idea. All of the flaws fixed:rock: