I'm bummed - First Time at the Track

Psycho Mythic said:
Hmmm, i can cut 1.9's on streets, with no mods but exhaust, now with slicks, no bye bye rc's :aetsch:


:dito: ........with DAs I can do 1.7s.....the only "bye bye" a QC will get is me waving at him thru the back window...;) :eating:
 
Alright monkey asses, I wasn't talking 1/4 times, I am simply talking off the line to the 60ft. times.......maybe even 1/8th! If I had a stall in the 3000-3500 range I could muster an 1.5-1.6. The QC with all it's might needs to be in the power band on launch to get her up outta the hole. Not to mention we can control this easier.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather bang gears as it makes it a much more fun truck all round, and I or someone soon will complete such a task on a QC.:burnout:
 
VENOMOUS1 said:
Alright monkey asses, I wasn't talking 1/4 times, I am simply talking off the line to the 60ft. times.......maybe even 1/8th! If I had a stall in the 3000-3500 range I could muster an 1.5-1.6. The QC with all it's might needs to be in the power band on launch to get her up outta the hole. Not to mention we can control this easier.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather bang gears as it makes it a much more fun truck all round, and I or someone soon will complete such a task on a QC.:burnout:

...you shouldnt call Cody a monkey ass...;) .:D
 
HV SRT said:
With stock tires stay out of the water. Go around it if you can. Do a dry hope and go to the line. Nice light. Also drop your air pressure to 22 psi. Were the runs about the same time? I race my magacab and it runs 9.9 to 10 in the 1/8th mile.

Only varied by hundreth's and my reaction time on the first light was .24 Didn't let the air out of the tires, or take off the spare. Just felt doggy for some reason though it sounded fine. Guess Ronnie is right about the ratio's. Only tried warming the tires once, I thought well, it's only 65 degrees, maybe that will help. Didn't, but it was fun to put on a little show :0
 
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Well, I was expecting mid 8's at least. I used Torries mid octane tune and the truck just didn't have that ground pounding feel that it usually does. I was on the street the other day racing a Z and at 2900 feet with 78 per cent humidity and 74 degrees, she was screamin!! Raced a Z from a light and went a little sideways when I took off but didn't smoke the tires fortunately. Felt way different than the track.....altitude and humidity...gnarly.
Smoked the Z by the way and he got me by two cars off the line.
 
VENOMOUS1 said:
Alright monkey asses, I wasn't talking 1/4 times, I am simply talking off the line to the 60ft. times.......maybe even 1/8th! If I had a stall in the 3000-3500 range I could muster an 1.5-1.6. The QC with all it's might needs to be in the power band on launch to get her up outta the hole. Not to mention we can control this easier.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather bang gears as it makes it a much more fun truck all round, and I or someone soon will complete such a task on a QC.:burnout:

Hmmmm...apparently you don't know how hard a 1.5 is to come by.:D :D
 
VENOMOUS1 said:
I agree, at that DA your times are on par especially with .2 off your 60ft. I cut 2.0 with slicks or street tires.12-14 psi I have found to be a sweet spot with both tires. To get any better 60ft outta our QCs you (we) need a stall converter that will put us in the 2900-3300 range on launch and bye-bye RCs.

LOL, Well I don't know about bye bye'n the RC's, but a stall converter would sure make some difference....I stalled it to about 1800 but it didn't jump like it usually does. I'll try the tire thing next time....didn't take anything with me so couldn't have reaired the tires for the long drive home or to the nearest air. But hooking up was not my problem, or maybe it was and I couldn't feel it.
 
badassvpr said:
I went to the track last week, I have a q/c- drop in K&N and ran on a 93 tune done by unleashed tuning. Ran a 8.991, 13.948 at 99.65. so that times not to bad who did the tune on the vehicle.


Smart Ass:D :D :D I was expecting mid 8's and hoping for low 8's boy was I surprised. The tune is the torrie mid octane. I'm gonna get hold of him and see about a tune for the altitude and humidity of most of Montana and in particular for this track which is about the only place I'll be runnin.

Course you know I was kidding with the Smart Ass comment right? Good times and speeds!
 
Don't feel too bad man, your track elevation is 5265 feet. At 15:53 (closest recorded DA for your pass @ 15:32) the DA was 6198 ft. Now if you calc your 1/8 mile time to 1/4 mile you ran roughly a [email protected] (which doesn't seem fast at all, but watch where DA makes a difference). That same pass would be a [email protected] pass at sea level. Calced back to 1/8 mile it's roughly a [email protected] mph. That's not including the et your loosing from the 60 ft. Your truck is capable of better times, all you gotta do is get to a better track without such a rediculously high DA.
 
Yeah it takes alot to get 5800 lbs off the line and our torque converters aren't up to the task. They absolutely feel like a dog off the line. From a roll where the mass is in motion, she's a BEAST!! Next time out don't stall up to 1800 , rather keep it about 1000rpm and give it that room to flash to lockup and you'll get off the line quicker!:D
 
VENOMOUS1 said:
Yeah it takes alot to get 5800 lbs off the line and our torque converters aren't up to the task. They absolutely feel like a dog off the line. From a roll where the mass is in motion, she's a BEAST!! Next time out don't stall up to 1800 , rather keep it about 1000rpm and give it that room to flash to lockup and you'll get off the line quicker!:D

the qc's do alright as long as they have sticky tires, wait till I find some drag radials, we'll have another minor boltons qc running 12.6's.

With the street tires terrible traction I can get it to feel like a monster out the hole but it just fries the tires. Just to keep traction you gotta roll out and have a dog slow hole shot where the rpms take forever to ramp up. Can't launch hard with the stockers.

When u say flash it from 1000rpms do you mean launch at 1krpms then hammer down right away? Maybe gotta try that with dr's.
 
I think I had the best 60 between myself and 2 RCs at the last GTG at the track. I was at 2.0 and couldn't get better even with DRs. Just not enough into the power band. NOw if the tires have a chance to spin, then it puts it into the powerband fast equaling tire fry!! Launching at 1800 the Torque converter has no room to flash. If you sit at the line, and brake rev the torque converter, it will start to spin tires at around 1800 due to the converter engaging and there is no chance of weight transfer since you have the suspension preloaded. At 1000 you have the 800rpm +/- room for the converter to make a quick flash up to 1800 which accelerates the truck a lil better and helps the tires take the shock and weight transfer for better stick. I cut 2.0 with DRs and the exact same on Street tire (crappy Falken Ziex 305s) TO a certain extent (4000 stall) we could really break some rear ends on the line and get some 1.8s at least with the HP we already have. Daily driving would suck though and mileage would go to shit. But she'd be a missle of the line or at 30 roll!:burnout:
 
Rgr that, my last time out I was cutting 2.02's at best for the 60ft with the stock tires. Those were the roll out launches, everytime I tried to leave harder or get to WOT before a certain roll out distance she would just fry the tires. I do remember qc's cutting 1.7-1.8's with the m/h's. I might take off my bed cover, tailgate, spare, and run some Lucas octane booster and run the 94 tune with no air filter when I get my DR's. No sense going through all that trouble with the stock tires as they won't hook.
 
I think your times are pretty spot on. When I raced in Douglas I was getting 2.2 60' with street tires and I think 9.4 in the 1/8th.

My best at altitude with drag radials was 2.1 60' and 9.0 for the 1/8th.

I usually ran 14.3 to 14.6 in the 1/4
 
ViperPowa said:
Don't feel too bad man, your track elevation is 5265 feet. At 15:53 (closest recorded DA for your pass @ 15:32) the DA was 6198 ft. Now if you calc your 1/8 mile time to 1/4 mile you ran roughly a [email protected] (which doesn't seem fast at all, but watch where DA makes a difference). That same pass would be a [email protected] pass at sea level. Calced back to 1/8 mile it's roughly a [email protected] mph. That's not including the et your loosing from the 60 ft. Your truck is capable of better times, all you gotta do is get to a better track without such a rediculously high DA.

Hey thanks VP, I knew the numbers would be much different at sea level but didn't try to figure them...thanks for doin that, makes me feel better about the times. We used to tune based on DA and a bunch of other factors of course but I didn't get too carried away cause I was just funnin anyway. Appreciate the perspective!!
 
wyoramsrt-10 said:
I think your times are pretty spot on. When I raced in Douglas I was getting 2.2 60' with street tires and I think 9.4 in the 1/8th.

My best at altitude with drag radials was 2.1 60' and 9.0 for the 1/8th.

I usually ran 14.3 to 14.6 in the 1/4

Well, pretty close for mostly stock then up here...thanks for your input!! It's appreciated. I would have loved a 9.0 that day!!
 

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