14 reasons to get rid of illegal aliens & close the borders!

[mopower1958]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare To illegal aliens Each year. Http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food Assistance Programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school Lunches for illegal aliens. Http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid For illegal Aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary And secondary School education for children here illegally and they Cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for Education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as Anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate Illegal Aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are Illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal Aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages Are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a Crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal Aliens. In Particular, their children, are going to make a huge Additional crime problem in the US http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal Aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many As 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.
Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine And marijuana, crossed into the U.S. From the Southern Border. Homeland Security Report: Http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that The total cost Of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 Billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 Billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in Remittances back to their countries of origin. Http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '. Http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars A year.

Are we THAT stupid???

 

[DBRIAN]

Deport them all, then close all borders!

 

[VIPR PWR]

338 billion ----what is the population of legal naturally born citizens of the usa...all the money spent on the illegals would make all legal natural born citizens, what multi millionaires.

 

[LoveThisTruck]

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that The total cost Of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 Billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 Billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf


Bullets are cheaper

 

[VIPR PWR]

They better get busy then ----for the sake of the usa

 

[Cudajon]

w00t! We just need to break their compases to where North points South for them, and they go back voluntarily!

 

[flchub]

go ahead and deport them,when u start paying 10 bucks for a head of lettuce u can start a thread about how wrong that is too

 

[VIPR PWR]

That day is going to come anyway at the rate this country is going financially---10 dollar lettuce...but atleast there will be billions saved that should be earmarked for rebuilding the real structure of america---bring back our manufaturring base and the middle class....WE the People For the People of the USA

 

[TXVIPERPWRD]

go ahead and deport them,when u start paying 10 bucks for a head of lettuce u can start a thread about how wrong that is too

Exactly, deporting no one is the answer; cutting off benefits for anyone here illegally is. If you don't pay taxes and you don't live in this country legally; guess what you don't get benefits. You should just be happy you are in our country making $5-6 an hour vs. $30 a month in Mexico.

I don't blame anyone of them, I would do the exact same thing if I was in there shoes. How are you going to blame someone for trying to make more money and give their family a better life? And many say I don't blame them, but they should do it legally. It's not like they stand at the border just handing out green cards. It can take years to be elligible. In the meantime, you are broke and trying to support your family.

So take anyway the benefits that we pay for until they are legal.

And why is marijuana still illegal? I'm not a hippie or pot-head, but when was the last time you saw someone killed why driving high, or got in a bar fight, etc. Marijuana has no effects worse than alcohol. If the gvmt legalizes it, let all the people we put into prison selling it out, and tax it like cigarettes; think about how much we would save on paying for prisoners and how much more revenue the gvmt would make in taxes on it.


Maybe I'm too liberal, but this shoot 'em all and put up a big ass wall to keep 'em out strategy ain't going to work.

 

[DBRIAN]

I will gladly pay $10 for lettuce to get rid of illegal alien criminals!

 

[BurntRubber]

go ahead and deport them,when u start paying 10 bucks for a head of lettuce u can start a thread about how wrong that is too

but we would all get close to $112 million dollars
then inflation would set in and a head of lettuce would be about $750

 

[TurboFreak]

I agree I think we should get rid of all illegals going back to 1492 AD so we can have our land back.

BTW, we have a lot of hispanics working here in the casino and I bet most are illegal. I know a lot of illegals use fake social security numbers or someone else's and pay taxes and do not receive any money/benefits back. They can't file for a return and they do not qualify for any type of assistance(Unemployment, Medical, Medicaid, Food Stamps etc.) because they are illegal but yet they put money into the pot.:dontknow:

As far as drugs go we can only blame ourselves because with no demand there would be no supply.

Also, they way our economy is going right now illegals crossing has slowed down and some are even going back. If there is no demand/jobs for them here they will not come.

 

[GriffsSRT]

I think we should do something too. IMO I think we should just cut off the benifits we give them and they start paying taxes:deadhorse: . Let them Stay but pay taxes. On the other hand you have so many using fake SS # and such, you will never be able to find who is who.

My younger brother 21 years of age went to file his taxes las month and found out the Jesus Chaves, already filed Jakes taxes for him:dontknow: . It seems to be big problem in Michigan about Illegals claiming taxes under these false SS # and its affecting many people.

I just hope we "USA" start solving the problem. Whats the answer :fight: i don't think anyone really knows. Every action taken (IMO) will have a nagitive reaction. We just have to figure which actions best support the United States and what this country is all about.

 

[TXVIPERPWRD]

As far as drugs go we can only blame ourselves because with no demand there would be no supply.

There will always be a demand for "drugs". You could classify alcohol, tobacco and caffeine as a drug if you really wanted to because they all can stimulate your mind and body in different ways. All I am saying is that marijuana does not create anymore negative effects than alcohol and we could tax it the same a cigarettes.

I'm not saying we should legalize all drugs, because many are very harmful and addictive. Marijuana does not create any effects worse than alcohol and of course both should be used responsibly. The DEA and our state and federal penal systems spend billions of dollars enforcing it and locking people up. Our country might as well make money off of it because they aren't going to quit selling it.

 

[TurboFreak]

There will always be a demand for "drugs". You could classify alcohol, tobacco and caffeine as a drug if you really wanted to because they all can stimulate your mind and body in different ways. All I am saying is that marijuana does not create anymore negative effects than alcohol and we could tax it the same a cigarettes.

I'm not saying we should legalize all drugs, because many are very harmful and addictive. Marijuana does not create any effects worse than alcohol and of course both should be used responsibly. The DEA and our state and federal penal systems spend billions of dollars enforcing it and locking people up. Our country might as well make money off of it because they aren't going to quit selling it.

:withstupid: I agree with you.:rock: I do not use drugs or tobacco and try and stay away from caffeinated beverages like coffee, tea or sodas and only drink on special occasions but I think people should make that decision themselves.

fftopic:
That is the problem we have with Democracy. The majority can pass laws prohibiting things the rest might like to do.

That is why the founding fathers created a Republic not a Democracy.

I think you should be able to do whatever you want so long as it does not interfere with someone else's right to life, liberty or property. I guess you can call me a "Freeman".

 

[guinnessboy]

i love this debate, i read about them all the time and i have come to one conclusion...........there is not one legitimate, legal, and reasonable reason why its better for us to keep them here...i hear the whole " who is going to do their jobs" bullshit....who did them before it was such a major problem??? did we not eat lettuce back in the day??? did we not have vegetables 100 years ago????? our country is an economically driven country, things flux with the times and changes...our country will survive just fine without these people

The key word here is ILLEGAL!!!!!

IM WAITING FOR THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE ON THE BOARDER START SHOOTING THOSE CROSSING CLAIMING TRESPASSING LAWS, I DONT CONDONE IT, BUT ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHEN IT DOES IT COULD GET OUT OF HAND...MAYBE FEAR IS THE WAY TO STOP THESE PEOPLE

 

[TXVIPERPWRD]

That is why the founding fathers created a Republic not a Democracy.

I think our country is turning into a dictatorship. Did you realize that if Hillary makes it into the White House, only two families have run our country (just counting 1 term for Hillary) for 24 years (1989-2013)!!!!

In the meantime our oil companies are posting record profits while our economy is on a downslide.

This is a quote from the Washington Post:

"Exxon broke the record it previously had set for profits by a U.S. corporation, earning $40.6 billion in 2007."

Their excuse for profits being so high is the cost of oil. Last time I checked, it cost the same to process a barrel of oil at $50 and $100. Can you say price gouging?? In the meantime OPEC is sticking it to us as well. I'm sure I'm not the only SRT-10 owner feeling it at the pump. I paid $8 more for a tank of gas last night than I did a month ago.

Aren't we pouring billions into Iraq? Why don't we get a little help back from them in the form of oil for the money we have sunk into their country? Why don't we tap into our oil supplies? We can't even drill off of the east or west coast because of federal regulations. I worked offshore while I was in college and you can't go a mile out into the Gulf of Mexico without hitting a well or oil rig. But that's a whole nother debate in itself.

There are too many lobbyist making our laws in this country. It's not a democracy anymore. Yes we can vote, but there are too many people and corporations in Washington making descisions for the betterment of themselves and not the citizens of our great country.

 

[AWDisuzu]

why don't the illegal aliens go make us some gas. sheesh

 

[TXVIPERPWRD]

i hear the whole " who is going to do their jobs" bullshit....who did them before it was such a major problem??? did we not eat lettuce back in the day??? did we not have vegetables 100 years ago?????

Farmers did it back in the day on their own farms. They did not make an hourly wage; their success was dependent upon how well their crops grew and sold for. Does anyone know a farmer that own's their own farm outright and makes a decent living anymore. Not me, they are mostly owned by large corporations that hire laborers to work the fields and crops.

Farm Aid.org
"Family farmers in the United States are under extreme economic pressure and thousands are pushed off their land every year. This crisis in farm country is threatening the very existence of the family farm in America. As family farms are forced out by large, factory farms, the quality of our food, our environment and our food security is in danger."

So who is gonna do the work now? Do you think you will find enough workers in our country to work these jobs for $5-6 an hour? I guess you could pull the prisoners out and start the chain gang again; but that's considered cruel and unusual punishment!! HOW F$CKED UP IS THAT??

 

[TurboFreak]

A buddy of mine from OK works as a "Roughneck" on the oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico both US and Mexico(Pemex).

The oil companies are making a killing and gas prices here in CA are $3.50+ a gallon for regular 87 octane, lol.

BTW, Hilary was President for two terms already, lol. I read a bumper sticker a while back that said "Impeach President Clinton and her husband too". This was after the Monica scandal.

People always try to blame minorities/others for their problems. In the past we have blamed the Irish, Germans, Italians, Japanese etc. Every time our country is doing poorly we start pointing fingers.

I always hear people say my ancestors came through Ellis Island "legally" so why doesn't everyone else and/or I don't have a problem with Hispanics only "illegal" ones. That's just a cop out BS excuse. First, there is no more Ellis Island and legal immigration now is a poor, insincere, and insulting imitation of what is was back then. In order to even visit the US from Latin American countries you have to show proof of income, own property, have a bank account, etc. and submit your self to background check, fingerprints etc. And to become a resident is even harder and can take 10-20 years. By that time you are past your real working age(sorry for those of you older guys, lol). Don't get me wrong as I don't have an answer either but blaming other people for the problems in the US is not an answer and will get us nowhere. Let me get off my soapbox.