Deleting of New " potential Vendor" threads?

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

I have over the last several months refereed a couple members from some other high end auto sites that I partake of now and then. They have come aboard to offer some products to us that no one else offers and would go over quite well with the community but they get instantly deleted from the site and told to be come supporting members immediately or screw off...

I think this really hurts the potential of this site, I think the member should be aloud to show what he has to offer and if there then is a great interest and they can justify becoming a supporting member then would be the time to do so..

But these guys do not even get to check to see if there is a response or a need from the members, and In the end I think several great potential vendors have been run off..

There has been a custom rim guy who has insanely low prices on custom rims of any shape or size all forged, and a guy who does complete custom carbon fiber replacement parts, not overlay shit.....

Anyhow I think in the future these guys should be aloud a little leg room, to join up to the site show there products and then if members are interested and want to start purchasing these goods at that time they should be given the option if you want to stick around and sell become a supporting vendor etc..

anyhow just my 02.. seams that we are running off good vendors who could supply us with top quality items...

 

[bigredv10]

interesting....I have no opinion other than "thats why they call him the boss"

 

[OCBob]

I know just what you mean. I was going to buy a superbowl ad this year, and then if I sold enough shit I was gonna pay them. But believe it or not, they said no.

Bottom line is that it wouldn't be fair for the guys that are already paying, now would it?

 

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

totally different things Bob. A member should be aloud to post his products or show off his goods. This is no different that a member saying hey look I found a site with a great deal on such and such.. Those threads do not get deleted, This is very similar they show there product and then if there is interest and you can read there thread to see if there is interest at that point they should be required to join or not... It has nothing to do with fair to the other members, As far as I know there have been several members who now are vendors who put up there product for sale and after several months of interest were then told to become vendors .. so yes there is a double standard and it is plain stupid... And don't even pretend to come back and tell me that has never happened.. You know plain well that members of this forum have advertised products, started companies and then they had to become supporting vendors.. so what is fair Bob?? the insider deal if you are a member for a certain amount of time and people like you then you get a free pass before becoming a vendor? or.. what???


And believe it or not many companies give you 1 month free or a certain time frame to advertise and if you want to continue to do so then you have to pay for there services, Many many many companies do this, the idea is they get you hooked on the response they get from joining there service and if you want to continue this you then have to pay.. Bob look at it that he helps the site grow and I don't think Pat is that greedy that he can not allow a member to join and see how things go and if things do go well at that point be given an option either you pay or your info is deleted.. Anyhow maybe I don't know Pat or any of you that well but that does not seam to far off base to me... but hey maybe I'm just stupid and growth to a website is bad but hey its worth putting out there..

 

[OCBob]

totally different things Bob. A member should be aloud to post his products or show off his goods. This is no different that a member saying hey look I found a site with a great deal on such and such.. Those threads do not get deleted, This is very similar they show there product and then if there is interest and you can read there thread to see if there is interest at that point they should be required to join or not... It has nothing to do with fair to the other members, As far as I know there have been several members who now are vendors who put up there product for sale and after several months of interest were then told to become vendors .. so yes there is a double standard and it is plain stupid... And don't even pretend to come back and tell me that has never happened.. You know plain well that members of this forum have advertised products, started companies and then they had to become supporting vendors.. so what is fair Bob?? the insider deal if you are a member for a certain amount of time and people like you then you get a free pass before becoming a vendor? or.. what???

Let me first say that this is only my opinion. I have absolutley nothing to do with vendors or the business side of this site.

But I don't think that is different. If they are on here hawking their wares they are in competition with the other vendors here. Why should they be given a free pass? How do you decide when they should have to pay? What's to stop them from jumping on here, selling a bunch of shit and then moving on? Like I said, just my opinion, but that's the way I see it.

 

[SHU-DOG]

Let me first say that this is only my opinion. I have absolutley nothing to do with vendors or the business side of this site.

But I don't think that is different. If they are on here hawking their wares they are in competition with the other vendors here. Why should they be given a free pass? How do you decide when they should have to pay? What's to stop them from jumping on here, selling a bunch of shit and then moving on? Like I said, just my opinion, but that's the way I see it.

I dont know Bob.

The 2 examples he gave were custom wheels and carbon fiber parts.

I havent seen too much from the vendors on those.

And if the new potential ended up selling enough they would stick around for future sales. In this economy you cant say no to ANY sales. Seems like we may all make out in the end.

Maybe the leaders of the pack can come up with a solution. Have the potential vendor list their products as an overview. They check them out to make sure there is no major conflict. Let them get a 30-45 TRIAL MEMBERSHIP?

Just my $.02

 

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

Well the point is you give the thread a chance and if a " mod" sees that it is attracting quite a bit of attention and they will be able to make some sales. I think its your aloud 5 sales a month with out becoming a vendor" forum rules" Anyone can judge a thread and see how many people say I'll take one or are interested and can make that judgment call and say hey.. we like your product if you want to sell time to pay up.. And the point of someone coming on and making a pile of cash and then leaving because they do not want to pay the 100 bux or whatever it is, is well crazy if that person is making money, Why would you take down advertising that is making you tons of cash and move on?? is is that good business seance? or is that just plain stupid of that vendor.. So yes I think the site would have to take that chance, I thing the only reason a vendor would move on is if they were not making the sales... I know if in my business if I'm advertising where I'm getting major sales and I am then requested to make a payment to support my adds I sure as hell would make that payment vs moving on and losing my sales.. anyhow its plain and simple business, you attract the vendor get them hooked and then make them pay, everyone wins the members get new items and the forum grows, growth is healthy....

anyhow my rant is over, I hope some of the powers above allow some room for growth from new potential members if not its a shame for some of these members who do not see some of the interesting options out there they they do not even know exist...

Let me first say that this is only my opinion. I have absolutley nothing to do with vendors or the business side of this site.

But I don't think that is different. If they are on here hawking their wares they are in competition with the other vendors here. Why should they be given a free pass? How do you decide when they should have to pay? What's to stop them from jumping on here, selling a bunch of shit and then moving on? Like I said, just my opinion, but that's the way I see it.

 

[FSTJACK]

I have over the last several months refereed a couple members from some other high end auto sites that I partake of now and then. They have come aboard to offer some products to us that no one else offers and would go over quite well with the community but they get instantly deleted from the site and told to be come supporting members immediately or screw off...

I think this really hurts the potential of this site, I think the member should be aloud to show what he has to offer and if there then is a great interest and they can justify becoming a supporting member then would be the time to do so..

But these guys to not even get to check to see if there is a response or a need from the members, and In the end I think several great potential vendors have been run off..

There has been a custom rim guy who has insanely low prices on custom rims of any shape or size all forged, and a guy who does complete custom carbon fiber replacement parts, not overlay shit.....

Anyhow I think in the future these guys should be aloud a little leg room, to join up to the site show there products and then if members are interested and want to start purchasing these goods at that time they should be given the option if you want to stick around and sell become a supporting vendor etc..

anyhow just my 02.. seams that we are running off good vendors who could supply us with top quality items...

First off I would like to know particulars of who amongst the Admins or Mods told these folks to "Screw Off", also who these potential vendors were.

We have a responsibility to our paying vendors to make sure that folks don't come on here and offer products or services that compete with the vendors we have.

We also try to make sure that the vendors are reputable in their dealings with our members.
The forum cannot be responsible for the products or services offered by vendors, however we try to get the background of the potential vendor before letting them come here offering goods or services for sale.
There have been many potential vendors that could not make the grade as when I did some investigating there were a lot of problems on other sites with regard to customer service and quality of product. We have had some problems with a few, shall I say less than trustworthy vendors her on our forum.

When this site was new we offered a 90 day free ride to many businesses.
Some of them pimped their products, selling products that were of poor quality and some had very poor customer service and then took the sales from our regular vendors and were never heard from again. They took the money for inferior service and parts and ran. We had one company that we let stay up as a vendor for nine months that would promise to become a vendor, he just shined us on. That man had over 250 sales and the forum never got a dime from him. That is not the only time this has happened.

I suggest that you look at this from a business perspective, if you set up a card table in Wallmarts front entrance and started selling video games how long would you be allowed to stay.

We have given companies a room if their offerings do not overlap with what our vendors sell.

Yes I have deleated company names and links that have been put up where it overlaps our vendors but I also contact the company or individual whenever I can to talk to them about becoming a vendor.

I have two trucks myself and would like nothing better than to not to have parts for my builds custom made as there is nothing available from any source.
We need all the good vendors that make parts for our trucks and we do everything to make this happen.

If you are a business you need to act like a business.

A member is allowed to sell personal goods without becoming a vendor.

What you are saying is very unfair and not true.

 

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

Jack I like your post and agree that that is exactly how it should be done and yes you take your lumps sometimes.. But the members I speak of after I talk to them and ask they why they never posted up on vtcoa as I'm sure members would love to see there wares tell me the same thing, I posted and my post was deleted minutes later.. So maybe just make sure all your mods are to the understanding that they can have a few days to get up to speed.

And to sadly say what I am saying is True and Fair. Sorry I brought up this topic as I have seen a couple good guys get run off.. That is it, I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings or any bs.. Just wanted to see if there was leg room for new potential vendors to post there wares and according to your post, there is plenty of room and even to much room at sometimes for these vendors. Anyhow just so you know I don't make up shit that is unfair and not true. As you can also see some of your Mods do not agree with what you just posted. Anyhow maybe just let them all know not to delete potential vendors right off the batt.




Thanks for the post..

First off I would like to know particulars of who amongst the Admins or Mods told these folks to "Screw Off", also who these potential vendors were.

We have a responsibility to our paying vendors to make sure that folks don't come on here and offer products or services that compete with the vendors we have.

We also try to make sure that the vendors are reputable in their dealings with our members.
The forum cannot be responsible for the products or services offered by vendors, however we try to get the background of the potential vendor before letting them come here offering goods or services for sale.
There have been many potential vendors that could not make the grade as when I did some investigating there were a lot of problems on other sites with regard to customer service and quality of product. We have had some problems with a few, shall I say less than trustworthy vendors her on our forum.

When this site was new we offered a 90 day free ride to many businesses.
Some of them pimped their products, selling products that were of poor quality and some had very poor customer service and then took the sales from our regular vendors and were never heard from again. They took the money for inferior service and parts and ran. We had one company that we let stay up as a vendor for nine months that would promise to become a vendor, he just shined us on. That man had over 250 sales and the forum never got a dime from him. That is not the only time this has happened.

I suggest that you look at this from a business perspective, if you set up a card table in Wallmarts front entrance and started selling video games how long would you be allowed to stay.

We have given companies a room if their offerings do not overlap with what our vendors sell.

Yes I have deleated company names and links that have been put up where it overlaps our vendors but I also contact the company or individual whenever I can to talk to them about becoming a vendor.

I have two trucks myself and would like nothing better than to not to have parts for my builds custom made as there is nothing available from any source.
We need all the good vendors that make parts for our trucks and we do everything to make this happen.

If you are a business you need to act like a business.

A member is allowed to sell personal goods without becoming a vendor.

What you are saying is very unfair and not true.

 

[OCBob]

Jack I like your post and agree that that is exactly how it should be done and yes you take your lumps sometimes.. But the members I speak of after I talk to them and ask they why they never posted up on vtcoa as I'm sure members would love to see there wares tell me the same thing, I posted and my post was deleted minutes later.. So maybe just make sure all your mods are to the understanding that they can have a few days to get up to speed.

And to sadly say what I am saying is True and Fair. Sorry I brought up this topic as I have seen a couple good guys get run off.. That is it, I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings or any bs.. Just wanted to see if there was leg room for new potential vendors to post there wares and according to your post, there is plenty of room and even to much room at sometimes for these vendors. Anyhow just so you know I don't make up shit that is unfair and not true. As you can also see some of your Mods do not agree with what you just posted. Anyhow maybe just let them all know not to delete potential vendors right off the batt.




Thanks for the post..

I'll have to assume that you are talking about me, as I'm the only mod here. And just to set the record straight I have never deleted (at least to my recollection) posts like you describe. I leave that to those involved with the business end of the site.

 

[flchub]

a vendor should always contact the site administrator before they post up any products ,in doing so they start off on good terms and they can be made aware of any and all rules,fees,etc.

 

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

Bob Its not personal against you, Im just stating a fact that the rules he stated in the post are not well knows amongst the mods.. So I'm basing it off if you didn't know better it could have been anyone as they do not know the rules 100% ... So nothing personal Bob, you should know that..

Thanks,

 

[SRT10VENOMOUS]

a vendor should always contact the site administrator before they post up any products ,in doing so they start off on good terms and they can be made aware of any and all rules,fees,etc.

This is a good point if you are going to be a vendor but as we all know not everyone thinks about these things before posting..

 

[Brat]

a vendor should always contact the site administrator before they post up any products ,in doing so they start off on good terms and they can be made aware of any and all rules,fees,etc.

Very well said.:rock:

 

[TNVIPER]

a f..king vendor should always contact the d..m site administrator before they post up any pos products ,in doing so they start off on f..king good terms and they can be made d..m aware of any and all f..king rules,the d..m fees and any other necessary shit.

This is what Clint meant to post...

 

[6pakattack]

I will just comment by saying that IMITATION is the GREATEST form of FLATTERY,and had not items from Vendors NOT REGISTERED with the VTCOA been Custom Made for me,there wouldn't have been any interest in the items because noone was making them !!!Now they are on a good number of members trucks !!!Soooo,Testing the waters to make a sound decision on making said pieces makes good buisness sense to me !!!How many times are we asked how much interest is in a certain item before the person will commit to making them ??? Just my .02 !!!

 

[HOT RAM]

This is what Clint meant to post...

 

[JRSVIPR]

Advertising, They charge you for it. How many places do you know of that will let you come in an advertise your product for free?

 

[6pakattack]

This is what Clint meant to post...

I can hear that coming from Clint !!!

 

[FATJACK]

Now guys let me offer a tiny bit of insight from the vendor side. Jack and Patrick and the mods have been nothing but extremely fair with all of the vendors. I have been on this forum as a vendor for over two years and Jack knows that we have had a struggle with finances from day one. I probably owe the guy a ton of money which he has never mentioned once much less hounded or harassed me. I just hope before we have to give it up that I can get the man some of the money I owe him. When someone comes on here without even asking and post up there wares for sale sure they will be deleted pretty quick. All anyone has to do is contact Jack or Patrick and find out the rules and play fair. The charges to be a vendor on this forum are VERY fair, no one could possibly bitch about this.