Dems in process of banning guns....

HOT RAM said:
Hahahahahahaha
Wonder how many will actually get that ?
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LOL,Yea, your right, probably over half the members here don't have a clue who Otis Campbell is.:eek:


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supercar1of1 said:

Putting Geithner in charge of the IRS is like putting Otis Campbell in charge of

a liquor store.


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That's all we get here in NC. Andy Griffith 24/7.
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TNVIPER said:
yep..sitting here watching it right now.....Otis was found by the ladies historical society to be related to Nathan Tibbs.....
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LOL I think I have watched that episode at least three times over the years,

you to probably.:D To bad life is not as simple now as it was back then, reminds me of my home town when I was young.


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supercar1of1 said:
I have proven on several occasions that I am willing to sacrifice everything I have, including my life to defend the Constitution.
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You are way over the top at times john. Where were you when WII was stamping your right to privacy all over the playground:dontknow: :dontknow:


Guns?? They aren't going anywhere... Whip up the NRA so they can have more money in the coffers.

I would think as a libertarian you would not identify with the conservatives so much. They are not for small government and they did not stay out of your life in the least.
 
jelms said:
You are way over the top at times john. Where were you when WII was stamping your right to privacy all over the playground:dontknow: :dontknow:


Guns?? They aren't going anywhere... Whip up the NRA so they can have more money in the coffers.

I would think as a libertarian you would not identify with the conservatives so much. They are not for small government and they did not stay out of your life in the least.
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I am not THAT old! LOL Also I left the repub's because they seem to have lost their balls.

I don't know when, where, or how you were raised, nor under what conditions.

However many people with similar life experience as myself were raised with a very strong belief in freedom and a distrust of the government.

I ended up working for the government for a total of 33+ years and all it did was confirm what the founding fathers new which is the fact that big government is not not condusive to liberty.

I am unfortunately a life member of NRA but have not donated or promoted them in years because of an incident that occured years ago.
 

Jelmes, below is an excerpt that explains how many of us( the ones who refuse to accept the "slave mentality" mentioned), feel about the current situation.


The Whole World Is Rioting as the Economic Crisis Worsens -- Why Aren't We?
By Joshua Holland, AlterNet


Explosive anger is spilling out onto the streets of Europe. The meltdown of the global economy is igniting massive social unrest in a region that has long been a symbol of political stability and social cohesion.

Over the past few years, a series of riots spread across what is patronizingly known as the Third World. Furious mobs have raged against skyrocketing food and energy prices.

Notably absent from the list is the good ole US of A.

Outside of a few scattered and quickly contained protests, the citizens of the U.S. -- a country born of revolution, but with an elite that's been terrified of that legacy since immediately after its founding -- have been calm, despite opinion polls showing that Americans are more dissatisfiedwith the direction in which the country has been headed since they began measuring such things.


Americans are rightfully angry about that state of affairs, but with a few small exceptions, quietly so. Why?

Mark Ames, author of Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion -- From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond, argues that Americans have been beaten down to a degree that they're now a pacified population, largely willing to accept any outrage it's elites impose on them.

In a 2005 interview with AlterNet, Ames said the "slave mentality" is stronger in the U.S. than elsewhere, "in part because no other country on earth has so successfully crushed every internal rebellion."

Slaves in the Caribbean for example rebelled a lot more because their oppressors weren't as good at oppressing as Americans were. America has put down every rebellion, brutally, from the Whiskey Rebellion to the Confederate rebellion to the proletarian rebellions, Black Panthers, white militias ... you name it. This creates a powerful slave mentality, a sense that it's pointless to rebel.

Anyone who has witnessed the brutal police riots that have become so common since the infamous "Battle in Seattle" protests against the World Trade Organization in 1999 can tell you there's some merit to the argument.

As the crisis deepens, as virtually every analyst predicts it will, that may well change. As The Nation's Bill Greider told Democracy Now's Amy Goodman, "you can't do this to people year after year -- that is, upturn their lives, take away what they thought they had earned, and so forth and so on, without provoking rather intense political reactions. ... We're just beginning to see a few bubbles like that around this country. I don't say we're going to have riots, but I think ... people, out of their own distress and ANGER, will organize their own politics, and they will make themselves seen and heard around this country."

Stay tuned.

 
quadster2005 said:
im a cop so im on the good end!
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Yea, I was in the business 1979-2006.
Glad I'm retired, the last few years were a bitch.




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thjones3 said:
Not if you are enforcing said gun bans :(
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That poses an interesting (to me) situation.

I'm sure there are police officers out there that love to collect and fire many of their own weapons. How will the gun ban (if implemented) affect them? Will they be exempt since they are law enforcement? Or will they need to turn in the weapons noted on the gun ban list. And how will they feel enforcing a law they don't believe in?
 
Most cops I know are against guns being banned. If you notice the email I posted came from the TBI which is the state equivelent to the FBI.
 
supercar1of1 said:

I am not THAT old! .

I am unfortunately a life member of NRA but have not donated or promoted them in years because of an incident that occured years ago.
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I believe he was refering to George "W" Bush ,the 2nd "W" and not WWII



I am not a life member of the NRA,but I fully support them and what they are doing .No other organization does as much to defend the 2nd Amendment.
Are they perfect ? Of course not.But,you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.
 
SilvrSRT10 said:
That poses an interesting (to me) situation.

I'm sure there are police officers out there that love to collect and fire many of their own weapons. How will the gun ban (if implemented) affect them? Will they be exempt since they are law enforcement? Or will they need to turn in the weapons noted on the gun ban list. And how will they feel enforcing a law they don't believe in?
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Generally speaking, I think law enforcement is mostly exempt from gun laws that affect us "average joe" citizens. The real question here is: Will those officers enforce gun bans/collections or disobey orders at the risk of losing their jobs? I would be willing to bet that they will enforce the bans, regardless of their personal feelings about it (especially if they themselves are not affected).
 
thjones3 said:
Generally speaking, I think law enforcement is mostly exempt from gun laws that affect us "average joe" citizens. The real question here is: Will those officers enforce gun bans/collections or disobey orders at the risk of losing their jobs? I would be willing to bet that they will enforce the bans, regardless of their personal feelings about it (especially if they themselves are not affected).
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But if they own weapons that are not used in the "line of duty", will they be made to turn them in. I know this is all hypothetical right now so I'm just throwing this out for discussion. Just because they are LEO's doesn't mean they can legally speed in their family car. Ya know what I'm sayin' ?
 
all my guns where stolen about a week ago officer but hey, u can have bb gun in good faith :D
 
SilvrSRT10 said:
That poses an interesting (to me) situation.

I'm sure there are police officers out there that love to collect and fire many of their own weapons. How will the gun ban (if implemented) affect them? Will they be exempt since they are law enforcement? Or will they need to turn in the weapons noted on the gun ban list. And how will they feel enforcing a law they don't believe in?
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This issue has been hashed out before. I don't know what would happen now, but in 1992 I am not aware of a single LEO down here that had any intention of enforcing any gun ban. Back then it seemed that at least the officers down here had the attitude that they were citizens first and had no
intentions to enforce an unconstitutional law, even though we were exempt. One thing that helped is that we had the covert support from our administration also.


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supercar1of1 said:

This issue has been hashed out before. I don't know what would happen now, but in 1992 I am not aware of a single LEO down here that had any intention of enforcing any gun ban. Back then it seemed that at least the officers down here had the attitude that they were citizens first and had no
intentions to enforce an unconstitutional law, even though we were exempt. One thing that helped is that we had the covert support from our administration also.


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Back then it sounded like they had some common sense. I don't have that confidence now. Hopefully this will all blow over and not be a problem.
 
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