Dems in process of banning guns....

SilvrSRT10 said:
Back then it sounded like they had some common sense. I don't have that confidence now. Hopefully this will all blow over and not be a problem.


The economy is top priority right now,but you can bet the farm that with a president that has voted FOR every gun control measure that came his way ( all the while claiming to be pro-Second Amendment during the campaigning) and a left leaning ,Democrat majority,that severe gun control (and ammo taxing) measures will be coming along. :mad:
 
Looks like a verbatim of the Clinton Gun Ban to me... :dontknow: No where in that ban, or this one, says the government will come to your house and confiscate these weapons if you already own them. :dontknow: You just won't be able to buy them (new). However, I'm sure you could find a "pre-ban" AR-15 or AK-47 w/ a 30-50rnd magazine at a gun show for a few thousand dollars. ;)

........ If the government announced they were coming to get everyone's guns, they would have a blood-bath on their hands.
 
Black1 said:
Looks like a verbatim of the Clinton Gun Ban to me... :dontknow: No where in that ban, or this one, says the government will come to your house and confiscate these weapons if you already own them. :dontknow: You just won't be able to buy them (new). However, I'm sure you could find a "pre-ban" AR-15 or AK-47 w/ a 30-50rnd magazine at a gun show for a few thousand dollars. ;)

........ If the government announced they were coming to get everyone's guns, they would have a blood-bath on their hands.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm a few thousand..............Kool:D
 
What would REALLY help the economy is to make everyone not pay taxes for a few years.. Call it the Geithner Tax Break.. I mean, tax evasion seemed to work for him quite well, and he STILL got to become head of IRS..

I say that because the little $500.00 to $1,000.00 stimulous check isn't going to make anyone feel well off.. That money will likely to to pay off credit debt. And that $1million tax credit isn't going to make companies hire more people.. They will likely put that money away and cut back even more. So how is this bill going to help the current economic turmoil?
 
Venom Power said:
What would REALLY help the economy is to make everyone not pay taxes for a few years.. Call it the Geither Tax Break.. I mean, tax evasion seemed to work for him quite well, and he STILL got to become head of IRS..

I say that because the little $500.00 to $1,000.00 stimulous check isn't going to make anyone feel well off.. That money will likely to to pay off credit debt. And that $1million tax credit isn't going to make companies hire more people.. They will likely put that money away and cut back even more. So how is this bill going to help the current economic turmoil?




Man, Damn you!:D That struck me so funny I almost lost my dinner!

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Venom Power said:
What would REALLY help the economy is to make everyone not pay taxes for a few years.. Call it the Geithner Tax Break.. I mean, tax evasion seemed to work for him quite well, and he STILL got to become head of IRS..

I say that because the little $500.00 to $1,000.00 stimulous check isn't going to make anyone feel well off.. That money will likely to to pay off credit debt. And that $1million tax credit isn't going to make companies hire more people.. They will likely put that money away and cut back even more. So how is this bill going to help the current economic turmoil?

If I get a $1000 tax credit, I might go buy a gun. :dontknow: :D
 
I like the idea of suspending mortgages for 1 year. I realize it will never happen, but I could pay off a crap-load of stuff (good for economy) and be a lot better off in the long run. :dontknow:
 
Thanks for the shopping list!!! :) I can check a good number of those off anyway, but sounds like a good time to get the rest!!!:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:


TNVIPER said:
As an FFL holder I receive gun law updates regularly from the TN Bureau of Investigation (TBI).....here is a disturbing one I received today..:mad: .(sorry for the indenting..it copied over this way)

Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2008

Gun-ban list proposed

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when
they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress).
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce
shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15,
AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90,
NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,

or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
magazine, SLG 95, SLR
95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or
Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a
folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip
(which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a
forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,

and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel
shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip,
and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a
pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable

magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a
shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or

a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note

that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for

Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you
have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable
presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or

any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting

purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that

devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Foward or send to every gun owner you know....







Douglas D. Woodlee
Manager
Tennessee Instant Check System
Tennessee Bureau of Investigation
Nashville, TN
 
HaroldD said:
Thanks for the shopping list!!! :) I can check a good number of those off anyway, but sounds like a good time to get the rest!!!:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
Guess it will br time to permanatly attach the clip and use stipper clips:D that is legal in Cali.:rock:
 
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine QUOTE said:
Guess it will be time to permanatly attach the clip and use stipper clips:D that is legal in Cali.:rock:
 
Otis is my hero, atleast he was smart enough to not drive!!!!! me on the other hand:marchmellow: :marchmellow: :eek: hoosgow bound on their terms:D this is alarming , like my .380 with me at all times. really dont think they can disarrm us, can they:dontknow::argh: goin to stock up this weekend:congrats: :rock: :D :D :D
 
andrew heywood said:
this is alarming ................. really dont think they can disarrm us, can they:dontknow::argh:


They don't have to disarm us.All they have to do is impose taxes on firearms that are so high you can no longer get them.Or tax the ammo out of our budget.Or even regulate the ammo (no Constitutional protection for ammo :mad: )
they can even pass laws making it illegal to fire a weapon within "X" amount of feet from a school,church,residence or even in the U.S.

What then ? Even if you have a weapon,it will do you no good.
 
HOT RAM said:
They don't have to disarm us.All they have to do is impose taxes on firearms that are so high you can no longer get them.Or tax the ammo out of our budget.Or even regulate the ammo (no Constitutional protection for ammo :mad: )
they can even pass laws making it illegal to fire a weapon within "X" amount of feet from a school,church,residence or even in the U.S.

What then ? Even if you have a weapon,it will do you no good.



Answer: Take steps that would result in "THEY" losing interest in infringing on our rights. HEHEHE:damnmate: :ridinghorse: :vollkommenauf:
 
supercar1of1 said:

Answer: Take steps that would result in "THEY" losing interest in infringing on our rights. HEHEHE:damnmate: :ridinghorse: :vollkommenauf:


I am taking steps to insure I will never run out.Buying THOUSANDS of reloading components (primers,powder,bullets).
 

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