Digital SLR Camera info wanted:

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Hey Y'all......

This is simple....

I wanna graduate from my Canon Powershot S50. I bought when we got Willow... It takes great pictures for what it is. But I lose a lotta great shots becuzza the time lag..... It really is annoying.

For this reason I'm considering stepping up to a digital SLR.....

I'm considering either a Canon EOS XTi or Nikon D80.....

I DO NOT want to become married to my camera or become a photo junkie.. I'm certainly into great pictures, but the idea of becoming obsessed with light, time and aperature settings is just to fkn ominous for me.... I have enough hobbies and pastimes to which I'm addicted and I don't want another...

I just want a great digital SLR that is great to "point and shoot" in auto mode.

The Canon sounds more my style. But I hear that the Nikon 18-200 lens makes it possible for boneheads like me to never have to change lenses at all.... Which I hear is a really good thing for holding the dust down...

I'm kinda stuck here....

I'd love to hear your input.......

Thanx,

Django
 
http://www.dpreview.com/

It's all about which lenses you want to stick with ... the cameras are basically disposable...

I have the Canon 10D and really prefer the L lenses... The equivelent is the 30D now... the rebel is a nice SLR... I just don't like the plastic..

good luck :)

here's the 30D link
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos30d/

here's the D80 link
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond80/

to the best of my knowledge the xTI is the rebel and NOT an equivelent to the d80... you want either of the cameras above... either the 30D or the D80 :D.....
 
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Both are good cameras Tim!

For the money though, I personally would go for the Sony. Sony's digital cameras typically have a faster shutter recovery, and better CCD.
http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/SLR1157.htm

If you were going to get it to use it manually, I would say go with the Nikon, but since you really want the Auto feature, either the Canon or the Sony are going to be a better choice. IMO

This website is very good, and they seem to be fairly unbiased in their reviews. Give it a look-see!
http://www.digitalcamera-hq.com/digital-cameras/buying-dslr_guide.html
Here, both the Canon and the Sony a100 are rated slightly higher than the Nikon.

I think that any of these will be a good choice personally, and they are all about the same price. You can't go wrong!
 
How could anyone give better tech info. then Scott,you know he is smart.
 
ntw0rk said:
Both are good cameras Tim!

For the money though, I personally would go for the Sony. Sony's digital cameras typically have a faster shutter recovery, and better CCD.
http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/SLR1157.htm

If you were going to get it to use it manually, I would say go with the Nikon, but since you really want the Auto feature, either the Canon or the Sony are going to be a better choice. IMO

This website is very good, and they seem to be fairly unbiased in their reviews. Give it a look-see!
http://www.digitalcamera-hq.com/digital-cameras/buying-dslr_guide.html
Here, both the Canon and the Sony a100 are rated slightly higher than the Nikon.

I think that any of these will be a good choice personally, and they are all about the same price. You can't go wrong!

Hey Scotty, Do you have the Sony......?

It seems right because it has that 18-200 lens...........Anymore data on that camera would help...

Tim
 
I don't have that Sony, but I do have A Sony. And I love it!!

If you read through the specs, the Sony really has a lot to offer.
Shutter speeds and CCD's are Sony's specialty. They also like to use Carl Zeiss lenses! The SLR's I showed you don't have the Zeiss lenses, but they are still good lenses.
IMO, Sony usually does a better job of making the camera user friendly too.

Here's the Sony write-up of it's features, in case you missed it:
Enjoy the all-new Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera with an amazing zoom lens to get you started. Included in this kit is the versatile SAL-18200 18-200mm standard zoom lens. This easily handles the full range of shots you'll take most often?but there?s nothing standard about its advanced optical design. With superior all-in-one lens performance for everyday shooting, its 35mm-equivalent range of 27mm wide-angle to 300mm telephoto excels at capturing faraway subjects, sports events, dramatic landscapes and intimate close-up views. The Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera is an instant classic: the top-quality 10 MP DSLR system camera that builds on a two-decade legacy of Minolta photographic leadership, accepts 20 years of A-mount lenses sold worldwide - and introduces Sony imaging innovations like high-sensitivity shooting with Super SteadyShot in-camera image stabilization, Dynamic Range Optimizer to automatically increase detail in bright and dark picture areas, new Anti-Dust technology to keep the CCD imager clean for better pictures, and Eye-Start Autofocus system for faster camera response.
The Rebirth of a Legend.
In the revolutionary new Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera, Sony's mastery of digital technology combines with Minolta's legendary SLR technology -- including autofocus and anti-shake compatibility with over 20 years of A-mount lenses sold worldwide.
Advanced Lenses and Accessories.
The Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera is your gateway to one of the world's most sophisticated camera systems, including precision Sony standard and zoom lenses, Sony "G" Series lenses with advanced motorized autofocusing, amazingly bright Carl Zeiss T* coated lenses, professional-quality flash units and more.
10.2 MP CCD.
A large, 23.6 x 15.8 mm APS-C-size CCD imager with Sony's advanced design allows more light to pass to each pixel, increasing sensitivity and reducing noise -- and providing greater detail when you make big prints or crop in close on your subject.
Super SteadyShot
When you shoot in low light, the shutter remains open longer -- so to compensate for shaky hands or fast-moving subjects, the Sony Super SteadyShot system automatically reduces image blur. And because it works in-camera, you'll get the benefit of Super SteadyShot stabilization with every lens you use.
Sharp, Clear Photos The Preserve the Mood.
With high-sensitivity (ISO 1600) shooting, the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera captures great photos without flash even in low light -- which makes it an ideal system camera for shooting without a tripod or in locations (like museums and churches) where flash is prohibited.
Anti-Dust Technology.
Changing lenses in a DSLR can allow dust to enter the camera -- so to keep the CCD imager clean for better pictures, the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera utilizes both static-free anti-dust coating on the CCD filter and anti-dust vibration that automatically shakes the CCD to dislodge dust each time the camera is shut off.
Dynamic Range Optimizer.
To recover details in dark or bright areas of the picture, the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera provides two levels of Dynamic Range Optimization: Normal DRO, to improve shadow detail using standard gamma curves for fast shot-to-shot response time, or Advanced DRO, to adjust dynamic range area-by-area for the greatest precision.
Bionz Image Processor.
At the heart of the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera is the advanced Bionz Image Processor, using hardware-based Large Scale Integrated (LSI) circuitry that responds ten times faster than software image processors -- improving camera response time, handling Dynamic Range Optimization processing and extending Stamina battery life.
Eye-Start Autofocus System.
Some DSLR systems don't start focusing until the shutter button is half-pressed -- but that can slow down camera response. The Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera begins its precision autofocus adjustments the moment you bring your eye to the viewfinder, to capture fast-action subjects other cameras might blur.
2.5" 1 Clear Photo LCD Plus Screen.
The Clear Photo LCD Plus design of the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera's built-in screen makes it easy to read camera setup menus even in bright sunlight -- and gives you a better picture when you use your screen to set up shots and check results.
Continuous Burst Mode at 3 Frames Per Second.
To catch fast action more effectively, the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera offers continuous JPEG image capture up to the limit of your flash memory card -- plus RAW Burst Mode (up to 6 shots) with intelligent buffer management to allow more shots to be captured without waiting for the buffer to clear.
Super-Accurate Exposure Control.
A 40-segment honeycomb sensing system provides multi-pattern measuring for superior exposure control accuracy.
Flexible Exposure Modes.
For greater creative freedom in a wide range of shooting conditions, the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera provides full manual exposure control as well as Program Auto, Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, and Exposure Compensation modes.
9-Point Auto Focus Selection.
The Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera gives you all the focusing options you need for composing your shot with foreground, background or off-center subjects -- including manual focus point selection, Spot AF, Continuous AF and AF Lock.
Lithium Ion Battery with Stamina Power.
Based on CIPA standard, a supplied NP-FM55H Lithium Ion rechargeable battery lets you take up to 700 shots2on a full charge, recharges quickly with supplied battery charger.
Dual Media Options.
The Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera accepts both CompactFlash Type I/II media and optional Memory Stick Duo media (with supplied adaptor).
Sony SAL-18200 18-200MM zoom lens
Get closer to your subject with the SAL-18-200mm zoom lens. Excellent for everyday shooting, this telephoto lens excels at capturing faraway subjects, sports events, dramatic landscapes and intimate close-up views
Specially designed for the APS-size CCD imager of the Sony a (alpha) DSLR-A100 camera, this is the standard zoom lens that brings you closer to your subject. With superior all-in-one lens performance for everyday shooting, its 35mm-equivalent range of 27mm wide-angle to 300mm telephoto excels at capturing faraway subjects, sports events, dramatic landscapes and intimate close-up views.
Internal Focusing System - Internal lens elements move, so the overall length does not change -- creating a lens that focuses more quickly and doesn?t change balance.
Aspherical Lens Elements - Three aspherical elements correct visual aberrations more effectively across the entire zoom range and help reduce weight.
ED (Extra-low Dispersion) Glass - Two ED Glass lenses minimize flare and greatly reduce chromatic aberration, giving you sharp, clear shots even at full telephoto extension.
Circular Aperture - Because aperture blades form a near circle at the wide openings used for low-light shots, spot-light sources have a pleasing circular defocused effect.
 
Cannon.......hands down for me.

I honestly did try the comp. before getting the 30D. Great bang for the buck.Get a 1 gig card and go have fun. If your just shooting stationary things, thats cool. But as you can see, those best moments ....should not be blurry. Late afternoon shot at the beach is picture # 1, # 2 is shot all the way across a soccer field....on the first day I owned the camera, factory settings. You can see the finger nails going into my daughters neck. Third pick is just one of those little action shots all dad's take.....before the kids grow up and start sucking the old mans money dry. PM me with any questions.
 

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Silent D said:
You guys rule........

Thanks alot for the input....

Anyone else.....?

SD

Timmy me boy,
you didn't need to read past my post... anything I say is pretty much the end all be all of opinions. :D

dpreview will show you reviews... they have a forum... they'll post SAMPLE pictures of what the camera can do... it's like the vtcoa for cameras :p
 
Soccer is such a brutal sport!! :eek: :D:D:D


Canons are good cameras, no doubt. And the shutter speeds are amazing! But, it will cost you more!

Like I said before, either the Sony or the Canon would be a great choice. I prefer the ease of use of the Sony, but wish it had the Canon's shutter speed.
 
I have had a number of cameras over the years. Mostly Cannon's and Konica's.

My wife needed a new camera, but I wanted something I could use also. I ended up buying her a Nikon D50. It's simple enough that in the Auto mode she has no problem using it. But on the other hand, I can play with it and get the pictures I want.

I should mention that this is the first Nikon that I have ever bought, and I would recommend it to anyone that I know.

Go to a good camera shop and look them all over.
 
One thing to remember is Cannon makes the very best lenses........Period. Tim the Nikon is for a Camera junkie..very clunky IMHO. The Cannon is a awesome camera and very user friendly......As some of you know I happen to Love photography....While I really don't care for Digitals to much....The new Digital SLR's are awesome...I am a old school film guy and will prolly never ever convert. I don't have a camera any longer though. But I did get the chance to check out Silverback's Cannon and I liked it very much.......If you have any questions Tim...you got my number Bro :D Oh and do yourself a favor and don't buy from Ritz.....You can find better deals on the very same camera on Ebay !
 
TheSickness said:
One thing to remember is Cannon makes the very best lenses........Period.

I would say that depends on which Canon you get. The Carl Zeiss lenses for the Sony's are a better lens, and Nikon Lenses are also very good.

Oh and do yourself a favor and don't buy from Ritz.....You can find better deals on the very same camera on Ebay !
I was by no means suggesting buying from Ritz, I only used them because they were the first to come up on google, and they had all the info readily accessible. I agree, for price shop around!

JMO
 
ntw0rk said:
I would say that depends on which Canon you get. The Carl Zeiss lenses for the Sony's are a better lens, and Nikon Lenses are also very good.


I was by no means suggesting buying from Ritz, I only used them because they were the first to come up on google, and they had all the info readily accessible. I agree, for price shop around!

JMO
Sony makes great audio/Video stuff....I have no expiriance personally with thier camera's. Even low end Cannon len's are well above average Scott. Nikon does make a good system as well. I just think for a starter like Tim Cannon would be the way to go IMHO. Very user friendly and on top of that a great product. Nikon lens for me lost some luster once they dropped the Nikor line..Those len's were all German made back then and the Germans have always been the leader in photography optics. If I had my choice I would always use Cannon, I Love thier stuff and always have :D
 
next time you watch a football game look at the camera guys.... see all those white lenses???

Yep those are Canon's :D :p
 
TheSickness said:
the Germans have always been the leader, I Love thier stuff and always have :D
Me too ................ :D :p ;)
 

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