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with the higher octane rating and so on i'm sure we could make more power with this than 93 pump gas, what all would need to be done to our trucks to make them run this fuel(i know the ecu would need to be tuned with it) but as far as fuel lines etc, and do you think it'd help with nitrous??? i know with FI it would help greatly
 
fuel lines
Tank
injectors that handle the costic nature of ethanol
tune.

There is a very fast viper on e85 e85viper.com he's got alot in it. It is a eneficent fuel. High cost to produce, low MPG. big hp though
 
i was just kicking around ideas, they are going to build and e85 plant close to here, i'd wait till it was more readilly(sp) available to do anthing with it, but maybe in the future
 
The other day a filled up the tank with Shell premium 93 octane that said it had 10 percent Ethanol by Volume. I could of sworn my truck was a different animal. It felt so much more responsive.
 
Shell V-Power be goood stuff:rock: :rock: :rock:
 
Django said:
The Super Shell (white pump) from the mid-late 60's was the real shit...........

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you got that right Tim.:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
no sunoco stations use to sell 98 octane ,,man i miss that stuff
 
it is possible to make our trucks use E85 gas....they sell a E85 conversion kit on the web....it will cost you $400 to $700

http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Detail?no=130
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the E85 has less BTUs per gallon than pure gasoline meaning it has less energy....for that matter 93 octane gas has less energy than 87 octane....to get any gain your motor has to have an off-setting power increaser..i.e. SC, higher compression, etc...
 
sunco use to sell 98 octane jucie ,,,just pumping the gas into the sled back then gave me a cheap high:rock:
 
I dont think that some of you get that more octane doesn't = more power...
 
BigRed460 said:
I dont think that some of you get that more octane doesn't = more power...
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...exactly...more octane than needed can cause a loss in power.....the owner's manual with the Charger RT 5.7 Hemi advises to use only 87 or 89 octane as prem will result in loss of power..(the SRT8 6.1 hemi requires 91+ octane)
 
Octane Rating and what it actually means can lead to many common misconceptions...

Octane rating is just the gasoline's resistance to detonation...

To get power benefits from that higher octane, you would need to either Increase boost on an FI set up and/or advance ignition timing and/or lean out the AF mixture, etc...

Alone, increasing octane will do nothing...

1 additional bit... older engines that have heavy carbon buildup in the combustion chamber especially on the crown of the piston may see/feel a power bump if switching to higher octane fuel. Often the carbon will act as a sponge absorbing some of the fuel out of the mixture and creating some knock. If the vehicle has some type of knock detection, it will retard ignition timing and you'll be all laggy. Bumping the fuels octane will get rid of the knock and lean conditions and lead to regaining lost power. Remember this is not GAINING power, but regaining it. Plus it's a band aid fix...

If you want fuel with some real power.... go Diesel... or go Rocket Fuel... ;)
 
There are many problems with ethanol in fuel. 10% ethanol mix is pretty common. This causes major problems in boats where it can eat older fiberglass tanks creating a residue that ruins engines. As said before it is also extremely hard on other fuel system parts not designed for it. One big problem with toy vehicles that aren't driven regularly is that ethanol actually absorbs water. Things like cars and boats that sit for extended periods of time, or over the winter, can have serious problems with water in the gas.

Joe
 
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