gear change for big HP......

[Texas Yellow Fever]

I give up.

HeHeHe...Stinker, we can always reserve the right to say "told you so" when he has to go with a 4:88 or 5:13 to stop his uncontrollable tire spin.... When was the last time you saw a dragster, pro stock, or any other race car go with a 4:10? Never...and there's a reason for that. They go with a high numerical ratio and dial it in with tires, which works especially well with traditional slicks (like you can run now with the new rear end) because they expand in circumference on the big end thus raising the final drive ratio anyway. But like I said, what do I know...

 

[Silverback]

HeHeHe...Stinker, we can always reserve the right to say "told you so" when he has to go with a 4:88 or 5:13 to stop his uncontrollable tire spin.... When was the last time you saw a dragster, pro stock, or any other race car go with a 4:10? Never...and there's a reason for that. They go with a high numerical ratio and dial it in with tires, which works especially well with traditional slicks (like you can run now with the new rear end) because they expand in circumference on the big end thus raising the final drive ratio anyway. But like I said, what do I know...

You hitting the sauce again Steve.:dontknow: You called me Stinker.

 

[Scrambler1]

A gear vendors overdrive setup is a good way to keep your RPM's and therefore boost up. With that setup I would deffinately look at 4.10's and then if you still can't hook up, maybe even 3.73. However the first thing I would do is change the rearend so that you can run some 15's and a better tire. Those are a little taller and will give you a higher overall ratio. If you are still having major traction problems then look at regearing. I'm not going to pour any more money into a rearend that I don't really like.

Joe

 

[Texas Yellow Fever]

You hitting the sauce again Steve.:dontknow: You called me Stinker.

Damn, I guess I'm drunker than I thought...my apologies to both of you...

 

[1Fast400]

I left mine as a 4.56. I crossed at 5500-5600 if I remember right. I should have my truck back from Roe in about 10 days. I'm going to make 2 more runs with it and then it's done as far as the track goes. I'll take notes then.

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Thats the entire subject of this Scrambler, we have our 5 people now to do the group axle buy
Nowwhat is wondering what gear ratio he needs or wants.

I understand what Silver is saying, maybe a 4.88 or so, but mine will see mostly street duty for fun, so I am staying with the 4/56 ratio.

I Nowwhat goes with a 4.56 ro 4.88 he still will be able to change ratio with tire hieght since we can bolt on 15 inch tires with these axles.

But I think Silver what the thread was started for was Nowwhat was wondering what ratio he should actually go for.

I know many variables will take place, but if he had a good start then he can adjust from there.

 

[Silverback]

Thats the entire subject of this Scrambler, we have our 5 people now to do the group axle buy
Nowwhat is wondering what gear ratio he needs or wants.

I understand what Silver is saying, maybe a 4.88 or so, but mine will see mostly street duty for fun, so I am staying with the 4/56 ratio.

I Nowwhat goes with a 4.56 ro 4.88 he still will be able to change ratio with tire hieght since we can bolt on 15 inch tires with these axles.

But I think Silver what the thread was started for was Nowwhat was wondering what ratio he should actually go for.

I know many variables will take place, but if he had a good start then he can adjust from there.

Damn you Stinker, I said I wasn't going to say anymore on this subject. ASSHOLE.

Okay, let me try again.

First off let me say that what follows does not apply to a Top Fuel, or Funny Car. No one here is going to be producing 8000HP and running a multi-disk slider clutch.

The less time you spend in any gear, and in the maximum torque/hp curve, the faster you will accelerate, provided you have traction. Why are there no longer any two speed PowerGlides? Why have performance cars gone to 6 and in some cases 7 or even 8 speeds? You want to keep the engine in that sweet RPM range for maximum acceleration.

Now there are many factors involved to accomplish this. Some of which include the number of gears in the transmission, their ratios. The rearend ratio. The diameter of the tires, and in the case of wrinkle wall slicks, how much they grow with speed.

Now Mr. Holden eluded to this, but I will attempt to explain it further.

Say you have 3.73 gears and you loose traction and the rpms go up to 5200. For the sake of this arguement you are going 20mph and when you loose traction the speedo (and the rear tires) goes up to 50mph. Now let's say you are running 4.88's and the same thing happens. The speedo (and don't forget those tires) only jump up to 37mph. Which is easier to regain control of?

Now this is the end Stinker. I'm fucking done on this subject.

Well not quite. If you believe higher gears are better, then go with some 2.53's. That will get you through 1/4 mile in second gear.

 

[QuickSilver]

Quick

 

[TheSickness]

Arguing with Stinker is like...................:banghead: LOLOLOL

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

I give up, I never was arguing, I am going 456 no matter what the detail.

Nowwhat is jsut trying to figure out which ratio ro go with and everybody keeps bouncing around the subject instead of saying he should go with a 4.88 or 4.56 or even a 5.13.

 

[Nowwhat]

I give up, I never was arguing, I am going 456 no matter what the detail.

Nowwhat is jsut trying to figure out which ratio ro go with and everybody keeps bouncing around the subject instead of saying he should go with a 4.88 or 4.56 or even a 5.13.

actually I was just trying to get you Steve and Silver to start an arguement....

 

[includemeout]

actually I was just trying to get you Steve and Silver to start an arguement....

I am totally shocked , never thought you were capable of such a thing

 

[Texas Yellow Fever]

actually I was just trying to get you Steve and Silver to start an arguement....

You're gonna have to try a whole lot harder than that...other than me calling SilverBack Stinker, he and I have been saying the same thing through this whole conversation. I believe it is settled, Mike should go with at least a 4:88, if not a 5:13. I'm like SilverBack, that's my last comment on the subject...

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Well in that case........................... Silver dont know his bannanna from a whole in the ground!!

You gotta be outta your mind you know that if you take the radial circumfrence of the tire and the ratio of the rear axle and progress it by 3 times for each gradual 1250ft you will see there is hardly any difference, it is much harder to spin a 2.73 rear axle than it is a 4.88, I cannot belive that a man of bannaism cannot perplex this idea? And we kknow steve is just thinking of boobs ,bigger is better

 

[Silverback]

Well in that case........................... Silver dont know his bannanna from a whole in the ground!!

You gotta be outta your mind you know that if you take the radial circumfrence of the tire and the ratio of the rear axle and progress it by 3 times for each gradual 1250ft you will see there is hardly any difference, it is much harder to spin a 2.73 rear axle than it is a 4.88, I cannot belive that a man of bannaism cannot perplex this idea? And we kknow steve is just thinking of boobs ,bigger is better

With that type of thinking you can just put a 1 to 1 in it and go through the quarter mile in first gear.