Ideal Conditions

[ILtemprd]

I'm working on a design to try and create ideal temperature/humidity/airflow conditions to feed my engine in almost all outside ambient conditions. The very noticeable seat of the pants HP increase when driving in cool, humid conditions is extreme enough to me that I cant ignore it any longer. I must play. I was hoping that one of our engine lords would know what the optimum temp and humidity would be for this to happen. This will be my setpoint on a programmable logic controller that will manipulate a signal to a pump running a water atomizer. This will create a mist vapor equal to 1 micron in size. The feedback from a remote mounted temperature/humidistat will monitor and regulate a 4-20 milliamp signal back to the PLC computer. This system would work well (I believe) in hot and dry locations. Once its complete, a dyno could easily tell if this was justified. Silverback - Do you see problems with this design in principal? Thanks for any help on this.

 

[Nowwhat]

I'm working on a design to try and create ideal temperature/humidity/airflow conditions to feed my engine in almost all outside ambient conditions. The very noticeable seat of the pants HP increase when driving in cool, humid conditions is extreme enough to me that I cant ignore it any longer. I must play. I was hoping that one of our engine lords would know what the optimum temp and humidity would be for this to happen. This will be my setpoint on a programmable logic controller that will manipulate a signal to a pump running a water atomizer. This will create a mist vapor equal to 1 micron in size. The feedback from a remote mounted temperature/humidistat will monitor and regulate a 4-20 milliamp signal back to the PLC computer. This system would work well (I believe) in hot and dry locations. Once its complete, a dyno could easily tell if this was justified. Silverback - Do you see problems with this design in principal? Thanks for any help on this.

you mean you are going to install a water/meth system.....

To answer more specifically you don't want any humidity....the dryer the air....the more 02 present....in a good water/meth you have full evaporation.....

 

[RedRamRules]

In regards to testing on a dyno, you would have to simulate the intake of air at the location where the humidifier is. I am not sure how accurately you can manipulate the conditions while trying to dyno. You may have to do road testing in dry locations in order to find optimum operating settings. You have an interesting concept, I wish you well in your endeavor.

 

[Nowwhat]

In regards to testing on a dyno, you would have to simulate the intake of air at the location where the humidifier is. I am not sure how accurately you can manipulate the conditions while trying to dyno. You may have to do road testing in dry locations in order to find optimum operating settings. You have an interesting concept, I wish you well in your endeavor.

Dry location....The man lives in Tucson.......figure 8% humidity....

 

[RedRamRules]

Right now tropical storms from the south are raising humidity a bit in the southwest, you should have felt it this past week and last.

Still you raise a good point, meth injection would be more efficient.

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NME5007/AddedFrom/CatBrowse- ENGINE-TRANS_NM/InvDetail.cfm

not sure if this is what you are talking about , but figured you mght be interested inthe concept

 

[ILtemprd]

Right now tropical storms from the south are raising humidity a bit in the southwest, you should have felt it this past week and last.

Still you raise a good point, meth injection would be more efficient.

The first time I noticed this was last year around this time during the beginning of our monsoon season. Last night the temps were about 77 degrees and relative humidity was around 64%. The truck was running like it just received a B12 shot. It has been around this temp with humidity low and never ran this hard. So the consensus is...Humidity has an adverse effect?

 

[ILtemprd]

http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NME5007/AddedFrom/CatBrowse- ENGINE-TRANS_NM/InvDetail.cfm

not sure if this is what you are talking about , but figured you mght be interested inthe concept

Thanks..If humidity is not helping then I guess this is the way to go.

 

[Django]

Good luck with your experiment......very resourceful of you....

Certainly way out'a my league.....

SD

 

[Azmotorhead]

Just think if you plumbed the air intake into the air distribution manifold for the Cabs air conditioning.
Turn on the A/C and you have 45* air to feed the engine. And its dehumidified too

Humidity hurts because the water molecules displace the air molecules. H2O doesnt compress.but it doesn't burn either.
Meth-H2O spray into the intake works because the alcohol lowers the air temp as it vaporizes at it will burn when ignited.

 

[Django]

Just think if you plumbed the air intake into the air distribution manifold for the Cabs air conditioning.
Turn on the A/C and you have 45* air to feed the engine. And its dehumidified too

Sounds similar to the new patented refrigerated air intake system that Ford was supposed to put into the new 500hp Lightning....unfortuantely it never got off the ground.... Would'a been trick...

SD

 

[ILtemprd]

Found this............:dontknow:

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-04/955052253.Eg.r.html

 

[Nowwhat]

Found this............:dontknow:

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-04/955052253.Eg.r.html

these people are confusing cool ar with damp air.....

 

[TheSickness]

If you install a flux capasitor and 2 relay switches..The kanuter valve will stay open and you will lose your muffler bearings...Try rocket propellant and a 70 shot of n2o :rock:

 

[Wifey]

If you install a flux capasitor and 2 relay switches..The kanuter valve will stay open and you will lose your muffler bearings...Try rocket propellant and a 70 shot of n2o :rock:

Hey dumb ass - you forgot the blinker fluid..........

Love ya HO!

 

[TheSickness]

Hey dumb ass - you forgot the blinker fluid..........

Love ya HO!

My IM is all fugged up

 

[Wifey]

My IM is all fugged up

Well unfugg it - I want you

 

[TheSickness]

Well unfugg it - I want you

I dont know how, I will have it back up tomorrow :dancing:

 

[Wifey]

I dont know how, I will have it back up tomorrow :dancing:

Try some more jergens and call me in the morning ...

 

[K-80-123]

For me....my truck left in July-05 it is back June-06.....I missed all the cool air......I really wanted to see the diff but will have to wait till fall of winter this year....if she is back from Boomer......I may be the only 05-QC with less than a 1000 miles...

Walt