INCREDIBLE times for SS/AH Barracuda

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Wescott Jr. Goes 8.30s in SS/AH Shootout at Dutch Classic
By Brian Lohnes Posted 10/27/08
There are titanic runs, and then there are titanic runs. Qualify Charlie Westcott’s laps at the recently completed Dutch Classic as the latter.

The existing national record in SS/AH going into last weekend was 8.51. Westcott went 8.38 twice and lived in the low 8.40s for most of the weekend. The runs were made in his familiar camouflage painted War Fish '68 Barracuda.

Westcott’s dad, Charlie Sr., who runs a stick-shift version of the same car was the mph king, topping out at over 150 mph during the weekend.

What was the biggest factor in the quickest-ever weekend of Hemi Super Stock racing? The atmospheric conditions. Westcott Jr’s 8.38 was run in literal mineshaft air, weather stations were reading 212 feet below sea level. That’s nature’s way of saying it’s time to haul ass.

Despite the string of runs that will forever be remembered in the already colorful history of these cars and these dedicated Hemi Shootouts, it was not Westcott leaving with the trophy or the cash. Those honors went to Jim Daniels, who upended Westcott in the semifinal round. Daniels scampered to an 8.477 second lap and the bragging rights as the baddest man in the land, for the time being.

There will come a point that these cars simply cannot go quicker in their current configuration and the masses seemed to believe we were getting close to that point. Charlie Westcott proved that there’s still gold in them thar Hemi hills. You just need to get into a mine to find it.




212 feet below sealevel is incredible atmosphere and remember these cars weigh over 3300 lbs:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: Below is one that made over 900 horsepower on the dyno!
 

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That is simply amazing!:rock:

mopower1958 said:
212 feet below sealevel is incredible atmosphere and remember these cars weigh over 3300 lbs:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: Below is one that made over 900 horsepower on the dyno!

Not totally surprising. Now if that was on pump gas and stock displacement, that would be amazing.

What are the limitations for this class? Unlimited compression? Race gas? Displacement?


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Ram From Hell said:
That is simply amazing!:rock:



Not totally surprising. Now if that was on pump gas and stock displacement, that would be amazing.

What are the limitations for this class? Unlimited compression? Race gas? Displacement?


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Limited to around 440 cubic inches, its a certain percent of stock stroke and bore. Stock crank, race gas and unlimited compression. They are making MORE than 2 hp per cubic inch with NO power adders.
 
I can remember when the SS/A cars first dropped into the nines, we thought they were flying:rock: :rock:
 
Here is a list of the cars this year and their times. I did not realize there were this many.

1 … 8.383 … 3651 … Charlie Westcott Jr … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
2 … 8.416 … 3036 … Charlie Westcott Sr … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
3 … 8.457 … 350 … Jim Pancake … 68 Dart … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
4 … 8.459 … 1517 … Jim Daniels … 68 Dart … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
5 … 8.466 … 799J … John Rains … 68 Dart … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
6 … 8.480 … 1990 … David Barton … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
7 … 8.520 … 1798 … Bucky Hess … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
8 … 8.525 … 1968 … Chuck Comella … 68 Dart … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
9 … 8.581 … 7301 … Jerry Jenkins … 68 Barracuda … RD 2 … WINTER NATS
10 … 8.592 … 335 … Jeff Kobylok … 68 Dart … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
11 … 8.596 … 3410 … Randy Warford … 68 Barracuda … Q … D3 INDY NO
12 … 8.600 … 3426 … Darrell Marvel … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
13 … 8.600 … 7005 … Mark Vieira … 68 Dart … RD 1 … D7-5 SONOMA
14 … 8.604 … 4446 … J. Allen Sherman … 68 Barracuda … Q … D4-1 BELLE ROSE
15 … 8.612 … 1945 … Gary Wolkwitz … 68 Dart … RD 1 … D1 DUTCH NO
16 … 8.612 … 4426 … Joe Teuton III … 68 Barracuda … Q … D4-1 BELLE ROSE
17 … 8.640 … 3500 … Larry Woo … 68 Baracuda … Q … CAJUN SPORTS
18 … 8.648 … 2354 … Bill Brooks … 68 Barracuda … RD 3 … D2-3 ORLANDO
19 … 8.658 … 138 … Wendell Howes … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1-2 READING
20 … 8.699 … 1954 … Bob Wolkwitz … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1-7 ATCO
21 … 8.714 … 720 … Dave Raybourn … 68 Barracuda … Q … D7-5 SONOMA
22 … 8.715 … 721 … Rick Houser … 68 Barracuda … Q … WINTER NATS
23 … 8.726 … 736 … Michael Ogburn … 68 Barracuda … Q … WINTER NATS
24 … 8.734 … 2904 … Matt Hensley … 68 Barracuda … RD 1 … D2-3 ORLANDO
25 … 8.740 … 428 … Kevin Helms … 68 Barracuda … Q … N SPORTSNATS
26 … 8.771 … 3392 … Don Bales … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1 DUTCH NO
27 … 8.781 … 1960 … Al Smith III … 68 Barracuda … Q … D1-7 ATCO
28 … 8.819 … 304 … Jim Keyes … 68 Barracuda … Q … D3-3 JOLIET
29 … 8.820 … 1381 … Mark Howes … 68 Dart … Q … D1-2 READING
30 … 8.842 … 7629 … Joe Faherty … 68 Barracuda … RD 3 … D7-1 CHANDLER
31 … 8.852 … 360 … Geoff Turk … 68 Barracuda … Q … D3-1 INDY
32 … 8.858 … 6145 … Norman Scott … 68 Barracuda … Q … D6-4 WOODBURN
33 … 8.859 … 2450 … Bob Reed … 68 Barracuda … RD 1 … D2-2 GAINESVILLE
34 … 8.903 … 4181 … Mike Trumble Jr. … 68 Barracuda … Q … CAJUN SPORTS
35 … 8.949 … 1142 … Bob Wise … 68 Dart … Q … D1-5 CECIL
36 … 8.955 … 364 … Tony DePillo … 68 Barracuda … Q … N SPORTSNATS
37 … 8.963 … 4420 … Tim Hebert … 68 Barracuda … CE 2 … CAJUN SPORTS
38 … 8.997 … 4443 … Gary Moore … 68 Barracuda … Q … D4-6 NOBLE
39 … 9.008 … 342 … Harold Leiter … 68 Barracuda … RD 1 … D3 B-GREEN N/O
40 … 9.074 … 452 … Steve Kent … 68 Barracuda … Q … MIDSOUTH NATS
41 … 9.138 … 205 … John Gillford … 68 Barracuda … Q … D2-1 BRADENTON
42 … 9.218 … 1174 … Brooks Lee … 68 Dart … Q … D1-7 ATCO
43 … 9.409 … 4777 … S.E. Buchanan … 68 Barracuda … RD 1 … D4-3 MEMPHIS
44 … 9.568 … 397 … Don Soloman … 68 Barracuda … RD 2 … D3-4 STANTON
45 … 9.824 … 2975 … Marvin Graves … 68 Dart … RD 1 … D2-5 ATLANTA
46 … 14.318 … 6766 … Bob Mazzolini … 68 Barracuda … Q … PAC SPORTS
 
Just a quick dumb questions, are all of the 'cuda's notchbacks or are there any fastbacks in there?
 
Both, mostly fastbacks.

Is there any way to post up a "History" of SS/A National Records???
 
Cudajon said:
Just a quick dumb questions, are all of the 'cuda's notchbacks or are there any fastbacks in there?

All the HEMI cars built for SS/AH competition were either 68 Barracuda fastbacks or 68 Dodge Darts. 50 of each were originally built, a lot of them that are racing are clones as the originals are crazy expensive. The new Bucky Hess car is an original HEMI car. Below are a few engine pics as they appeared at the last race, The Dutch Classic.
 

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Back in the old days it was just SS/AA (Automatic) or SS/A (Stick) What is the "H" designation?
 
FATJACK said:
Back in the old days it was just SS/AA (Automatic) or SS/A (Stick) What is the "H" designation?

It is NHRA'S new designation for the class. Sticks and Automatics run together now. There were no other makes or models that were competitive against the HEMIS so NHRA made a class just for them. Now at a lot of NHRA races they have a "HEMI SHOOTOUT" which draws a lot of fans.
 
Jim Pancake has a real 68 Hemi Cuda that he used to race until a couple of years ago. Now he races a clone 68 Hemi Dart.

Bill.
 

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