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Subject: GM supplier answers GM President Troy Clarke's "plea"


I checked this out on Snopes.com. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/knox.asp



From the President of GM North America:


Dear Employees & Suppliers,
Congress and the current Administration will soon determine whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the global financial crisis......................As an employee or supplier, you have a lot at stake and continue to be one of our most effective and passionate voices.. I know GM can count on you to have your voice heard. Thank you for your urgent action and ongoing support.


Troy Clarke President General Motors North America




A response from one of GM's suppliers:


Response from:
Gregory Knox, Pres.
Knox Machinery Company
Franklin , Ohio

Gentlemen:

In response to your request to contact legislators and ask for a bailout for the Big Three automakers please consider the following, and please pass my thoughts on to Troy Clark, President of General Motors North America.

Politicians and Management of the Big 3 are both infected with the same entitlement mentality that has spread like cancerous germs in UAW halls for the last countless decades, and whose plague is now sweeping this nation, awaiting our new "messiah", Pres-elect Obama, to wave his magic wand and make all our problems go away, while at the same time allowing our once great nation to keep "living the dream"… Believe me folks, The dream is over!

This dream where we can ignore the consumer for years while management myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the same time that our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, arrogant, ignorant and laziest entitlement minded "laborers" without paying the price for these atrocities…this dream where you still think the masses will line up to buy our products for ever and ever.

Don't even think about telling me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not knowing of what I speak. I have called on Ford, GM, Chrysler, TRW, Delphi, Kelsey Hayes, American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's throughout the Midwest during the past 30 years and what I've seen over those years in these union shops can only be described as disgusting.

Troy Clarke, President of General Motors North America, states: "There is widespread sentiment throughout this country, and our government, and especially via the news media, that the current crisis is completely the result of bad management which it certainly is not."

You're right Mr. Clarke, it's not JUST management…how about the electricians who walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making people wait on them for countless hours while they drag ass…so they can come in on the weekend and make double and triple time…for a job they easily could have done within their normal 40 hour work week. How about the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare tactics…for putting out too many parts on a shift…and for being too productive. (We certainly must not expose those lazy bums who have been getting overpaid for decades for their horrific underproduction, must we?!?)

Do you folks really not know about this stuff?!? How about this great sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea: "over the last few years …we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps with our competitors." What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?!? Did we really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between us and them? The K car vs. the Accord? The Pinto vs. the Civic?!? Do I need to go on? What a joke!

We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United States auto industry for decades. It's time to pay for your sins, Detroit .

I attended an economic summit last week where brilliant economist, Alan Beaulieu, from the Institute of Trend Research, surprised the crowd when he said he would not have given the banks a penny of "bailout money". "Yes, he said, this would cause short term problems," but despite what people like politicians and corporate magnates would have us believe, the sun would in fact rise the next day… and the following very important thing would happen…where there had been greedy and sloppy banks, new efficient ones would pop up…that is how a free market system works…it does work…if we would only let it work…"

But for some nondescript reason we are now deciding that the rest of the world is right and that capitalism doesn't work - that we need the government to step in and "save us"…Save us my ass, Hell - we're nationalizing…and unfortunately too many of our once fine nation's citizens don't even have a clue that this is what is really happening…But, they sure can tell you the stats on their favorite sports teams…yeah - THAT'S really important, isn't it…

Does it ever occur to ANYONE that the "competition" has been producing vehicles, EXTREMELY PROFITABLY, for decades in this country?... How can that be??? Let's see… Fuel efficient… Listening to customers… Investing in the proper tooling and automation for the long haul…

Not being too complacent or arrogant to listen to Dr. W. Edwards Deming four decades ago when he taught that by adopting appropriate principles of management, organizations could increase quality and simultaneously reduce costs. Ever increased productivity through quality and intelligent planning… Treating vendors like strategic partners, rather than like "the enemy"… Efficient front and back offices… Non union environment…

Again, I could go on and on, but I really wouldn't be telling anyone anything they really don't already know down deep in their hearts.

I have six children, so I am not unfamiliar with the concept of wanting someone to bail you out of a mess that you have gotten yourself into - my children do this on a weekly, if not daily basis, as I did when I was their age. I do for them what my parents did for me (one of their greatest gifts, by the way) - I make them stand on their own two feet and accept the consequences of their actions and work through it. Radical concept, huh… Am I there for them in the wings? Of course - but only until such time as they need to be fully on their own as adults.

I don't want to oversimplify a complex situation, but there certainly are unmistakable parallels here between the proper role of parenting and government. Detroit and the United States need to pay for their sins. Bad news people - it's coming whether we like it or not. The newly elected Messiah really doesn't have a magic wand big enough to "make it all go away." I laughed as I heard Obama "reeling it back in" almost immediately after the final vote count was tallied…"we really might not do it in a year…or in four…" Where the Hell was that kind of talk when he was RUNNING for office.

Stop trying to put off the inevitable folks … That house in Florida really isn't worth $750,000… People who jump across a border really don't deserve free health care benefits… That job driving that forklift for the Big 3 really isn't worth $85,000 a year… We really shouldn't allow Wal-Mart to stock their shelves with products acquired from a country that unfairly manipulates their currency and has the most atrocious human rights infractions on the face of the globe…

That couple whose combined income is less than $50,000 really shouldn't be living in that $485,000 home… Let the market correct itself folks - it will. Yes it will be painful, but it's gonna' be painful either way, and the bright side of my proposal is that on the other side of it all, is a nation that appreciates what it has…and doesn't live beyond its means…and gets back to basics…and redevelops the patriotic work ethic that made it the greatest nation in the history of the world…and probably turns back to God.

Sorry - don't cut my head off, I'm just the messenger sharing with you the "bad news". I hope you take it to heart.

Gregory J. Knox, President
Knox Machinery, Inc.
Franklin , Ohio 45005
 
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He's right. People (and corporations) have been living well beyond their means for some time and the chickens have come home to roost. What were the big three thinking when they are continuing to produce vehicles that aren't selling? They were way to slow to adapt to a changing market. Not to mention the cost of vehicles has skyrocketed over the last 15-20 years. What did they think was going to happen two or three years after they offered employee pricing to the public? First everyone that was thinking of buying a new car did and secondly, did they really think people would go back to paying higher prices again? I am a die hard Chrysler fan and will always be, but I do not support my money being used to bail out poor PRIVATE sector business decisions. It's bad enough when the government wastes our money.

I vote we change tax day to two days before election day. I bet we'll see some real "change" then.

-Muzzy
 

At least BO seems to maybe understand the situation and is coming to his senses.

Thank goodness Pelosi, Shuemer, Fienstien,(not sure of spelling, don't GAS) or the like didn't get elected.




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I dont know. i think that is has some good points, but then i think that there is alot that is not understood. I do agree that during the late 70's and 80's the big three did make some cars with quality nowhere in there minds, but in the the last 15-20 years they have made a complete turnaround. As far as the foreign automakers whose standards we have been "closing the gap on" i feel that that is b.s. due to the fact that we have pionerred the auto industy since the begining. We had the first assembly line, had to go over the japan and show them how to build cars, and have led the way with most of the modern safety ammenities that now come standard on all cars. Not to mention you dont see that many foreign cars still on the roads that are 10 years older or more. Just proof that there longevity is not up to par with the american auto makers.
Next, I do agree that the obscene amount of money that some of these people are making is ridiculous. The CEO's and heads of all these companies making millions of dollars a year and then collecting bonus of hundreds of thousands of dollars is just assinine. Who honestly needs to make that much money to do what, sit at a desk and go yes and no? And the unions. How many knew that the first $3000 of every GM vehicle goes directly to the unions. If they would cut them out then there would be an astronomical savings over the course of a year. Now dont get me wrong i think that some of it needs to be there since it does cover things such as employee retirement and health care benefits, but honestly, does it take $3000 a car?
Now, as far as this supplier that responded to this, I think that he is an idiot. He pretty much said to let the big 3 go on and try to find there own way out. Now what happens if they all fail and the foreing auotmakers dominate the auto industry? He would most likely end up without a job too. That is what i dont understand is that why most people say let them go under when they help to create so many jobs in this country. The hafta buy supplies for all the vehicles that they make and that is what give alot of people jobs. Does he think that if they do not make it that the japs are going to come over here and buy supplies from him? I doubt it.
Now i agree that the big 3 have made some vehicles that cost more to make than they get back but just realize that one of them vehicles is the sole basis for this entire forum. Not to mention the cost it takes to build a viper vs. how many are sold a year. Less than a thousand were sold last year.
I just think theres a lot riding on the american auto makers and if we dont save them then this country is through.
 
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