Moderate fuel system upgrade suggestions

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In speaking with Jeff Morys about his Striker heads, he mentioned that increased fuel flow would be helpful in getting the A/F dialed in. I will likely be up-sizing to 43# injectors, and expect to end up around 600rwt N/A.

What modifications to the fuel system would make sense?
 
Don't want to be a turd licker, but I don't have an answer for you on this one. I'm more in tune with Holley style carbs with Jets, Power Valves and all that stuff you could actually touch. To much of this shit is now controlled by computer codes. And I don't know shit about them.

I do however know that the bigger injectors will get more fuel to the engine. Problem is I don't know if the stock fuel pump will supply the injectors. ECM? :dontknow: Hell if I know how that handles it.

Sorry I could not be of more help to you Eric.
 
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maybe look into the Paxton fuel set up....it's just 2 external fuel pumps plumbed in line after the tank....maybe you could control them with the VEC. This would probably be really inexpensive too.
 
Silverback said:
Don't want to be a turd licker, but I don't have an answer for you on this one. I'm more in tune with Holley style carbs with Jets, Power Valves and all that stuff you could actually touch. To much of this shit is now controlled by computer codes. And I don't know shit about them.

I do however know that the bigger injectors will get more fuel to the engine. Problem is I don't know if the stock fuel pump will supply the injectors. ECM? :dontknow: if I know how that handles it.

Sorry I could not be of more help to you Eric.

I agree with SilverBack on this, I'm over my head on fuel injected systems/upgrades, but when I was talking to DC Performance about their Stryker Head/cam package, they felt like the stock fuel system could handle the requirements, but as I recall they did mention that their might be a need to put a shim in the stock pump to up the pressure a little bit. I have now exhausted my limited knowledge on the subject, but would highly suggest you talk to them about it...
 
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Not sure one different requirments, but will soon have injectors, stock rails,adn an in tankwalboro 255 pump for sale,
 
Would like someone who knows to chime in, but I think the stock pump will support 43# injectors.
 
The injector size actually does not matter if you have an engine controller such as vec or aem or can flash the computer, you can trim down the levels this way.
The way KC explained it was if a stock injector flows 30lbs at 100% and you replace them with 60lb injectors then you would trim the level to 50% and you should have the same basic flow,(i think i got that correct , well as good as I could remeber)

Now on the pump, I'm not sure what the stock one flows, but as your need for fuel increases the flow must increase at WOT, now this I cant remember as much, but the walboro 255gph flows a tad better than stock and holds presure some better under load conditions, but in a case such as mine or Toms or even the paxton or Blakewilders more pressure or flow will be needed.

Now in High hp conditions basically over 700 I think is what he said, you need a better system, but a complete system will consist of hi flo filter, regulator, rails and pump. You must incorporate the rails and filter and lines since you will be flowing at a much higher rate, such in case you put a bigger pump and no rails then you may have enough pressure but under high load conditions the rails may empty .

I would think if you are going to do a simple upgrade you could go pump only witha good filter, but in the end (as I now know) you might as well go the enitre route, then you want have anything else to worry with, you can regulate your pressure and up it when needed,

dont take any of this to heart, some of it is just what I remember from saturday, so some knowledge is actually needed.
 
In the case of what I did to the SS in the 60# injectors,twin Bosch race pumps 10 AN feed lines, two filters per side and custom fuel rails.We sumped out to the bottom of the tank and didn`t use a fuel cell .One pump will feed 700 Hp or so.

It wouldn`t be near as involed with our trucks.I would go with an Racetronix(Walbro wth upgraded wiring) and bigger injectors.If you go over the 700 Hp level you will need the big boy fuel system .
 
One thing to remember is boosted (Supercharged, Turboed) motors have different fuel and fuel pressure requirements than a normally asperated motor.
The fuel is pushing against the boosted air in the intake system. It takes more fuel systen/pressure to over come the increased resistance of the higher intake pressure found at the injector.
If you have a fuel system calculated for 700 HP on a normally aspirated motor it will not be able to produce 700 HP on a boosted motor.
Work with your tuner on the selection of and installation of a fuel system.

Over the years I saw almost as many motors damaged by inedaquate fuel systems as were damaged by detonation.
 
The way mine is done we could go with less pump because of the FMU (vortech Super Fmu). It has adjustable disks that you can change to regulate flow accordingly. Now that I am doing the heads and cam I have to up the flow a bit. Hence we are going to 60 lb injectors.
 

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