Funny you say that.......the reaon I liked them was because of the lugs....I had a '66 427 vette....31k original miles....number matching.....blah blah.....with REAL knock offs....came with a lead hammer to tighten them....LEAD HAMMER...

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Any way....one tire came completely off.....OFF..through the fender....may be the ugliest sound I have ever heard.....
So correctness aside...I will take my 5 lugs at 135 ftlbs....and skip the wire or little chalk marks that you have to check every time you get in the car....
Kinda like jelly beans...ate a pound of them when I was eight....blew rainbow colored chunks 20 minutes later.....haven't eaten a jelly bean since....