nitrous shot

Ram From Hell said:
I'm personally looking forward to seeing what my built motor plus direct-port injected progressive nitrous can deliver. Final build objectives are nearly resolved, with a higher max HP target than previously sought. If the all engine HP runs in the 600's, and a 400 max of nitrous is added, we could have a contender.:rock:


If you make gobs of power....I'll say its because of the special long tubes and throttle body you have;)
 
Reduce timing close to stock values.
Colder plugs.
Air Fuel ratio around 10.8-11.5 with NOS.
Injecting meth can help too with detonation.
Stay around 100-125 shot to be safe. Max 200 with proper adjustments/precautions.
 
Any recommendations on who to buy the kit from?

Also what brand & type of spark plugs are used? I never have heard of "cold" spark plugs. Also would they be able to be used with the MSD cables? Thanks.
 
RedRamRules said:
Any recommendations on who to buy the kit from?

Also what brand & type of spark plugs are used? I never have heard of "cold" spark plugs. Also would they be able to be used with the MSD cables? Thanks.


Only if they are Jumper cables...hehe

Nah, on a serious note, I like NX (nitrous Express) they seem to have a decent kit. I had the wet kit on my truck and might put it on the srt-10, still not sure yet.... From what I understand, there are 1 stage cooler plugs...maybe VprPwr can chime in :confused:

-Red
 
RedRamRules said:
Any recommendations on who to buy the kit from?

Also what brand & type of spark plugs are used? I never have heard of "cold" spark plugs. Also would they be able to be used with the MSD cables? Thanks.

I and a couple others have the Cold Fusion Viper kit. 100-400 shot dual nozzles.
The kit is good, customer service is not good.

I think there are a few with the ZEX kit but I couldn't talk to it.

The hardest part of the install was the wide open throttle switch mounted to the throttle link housing. At least that is where I mounted it. I will take pics and post later. Also, mounted a purge kit.

I have some cold NGK iridiums sitting next to me now. Part number BKR7EIX, stock number 6988. However, noone that I know of, has used these plugs. So it looks like I am the test bed and you may want to wait to see if they work. I believe they will or I wouldn't have bought them. Art has them in stock.

I do have MSD wires installed right now (see pic).
 

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These are the colder plugs that are used in paxton applications and can be used for nitrous too...NGKZFR6F-11 These plugs took 5#'s of boost and 100 shot...never had one fail:D
 
Hmm...
Nitrous Express (NX)
Cold Fusion
Zex

Looks like some hard choices. Also:
NGK: NGKZFR6F-11
NGK: BKR7EIX

Also something to look into. Thanks for all the help guys, but I may wait to see what results Bone has on his setup.
 
RedRamRules said:
Hmm...
Nitrous Express (NX)
Cold Fusion
Zex

Looks like some hard choices. Also:
NGK: NGKZFR6F-11
NGK: BKR7EIX

Also something to look into. Thanks for all the help guys, but I may wait to see what results Bone has on his setup.
You still need tires :D

Want my 18's are still available!

-Red
 
Kinda like massage without a happy ending :dontknow:

Patrick, I can take the tires off your hands next month (week of the 10th) if you still have them available by then. :rock:
 
Seperate all by itself fuel system.

Pay attention guys, Daniel has an excelent record with Nitrous and he is a good tuner.

A seperate fuel needs to be stand alone, and consist of;

Source of fuel. ( Seperate fuel pickup out of the tank or seperate tank, Jaz makes a neat little 1 gallon tank)

Seperate, independant pump

Seperate, independant lines

That way you can use a good high octane fuel in the seperate tank and don't need to wory about lean out and/or detonation.

Do not piggyback any of the stock fuel system.
 
Is there a way of storing the smaller tank underneath the bed or cab?

Daniel would it be possible for you to make a nitrous roadmap that we can follow? This service would be rewarded :D
 
My AF ratio is solid at 11.0 with NOS thru the VEC with a few dyno pulls. I don't see a need for me to have a separate fuel system. No detonation, no knock.
 
Bone said:
My AF ratio is solid at 11.0 with NOS thru the VEC with a few dyno pulls. I don't see a need for me to have a separate fuel system. No detonation, no knock.

Your N/A..its not that big of a deal, BUT its safer (rev limiter..etc..) to run a separate fuel system anyways

For boosted, you DEFINITLY want a separate fuel system going to the Nitrous as Jack said

-Red
 
Bone said:
My AF ratio is solid at 11.0 with NOS thru the VEC with a few dyno pulls. I don't see a need for me to have a separate fuel system. No detonation, no knock.


You're fine because it looks like you're spraying less than a 100 shot. For a 100 shot on a N/A application the stock fuel system should be more than adequate. But if your N/A a 100 shot is really childs play....So if you want to go bigger then the separate fuel system comes into play. Try running that 400 shot on your stock fuel system and see if your fuel rail can supply enough fuel:D Also make sure you check your A/F carefully while sparying at the track....on the dyno you don't put any load on the truck and nitrous only sprays for 2-3 seconds...your A/F could change with real world load going down the track
 
In that case I guess a 100 shot would be alright for me. Moving from a 100 shot to a 400 shot would'nt require modifications of the original 100 shot equipment, would it?
 
RedRamRules said:
In that case I guess a 100 shot would be alright for me. Moving from a 100 shot to a 400 shot would'nt require modifications of the original 100 shot equipment, would it?
I don't recommend a 400 shot. The system however can deliver a 400 shot (supposively) with the appropriate pills. I'm not sure how long the stock internals would last with that much of a shot. Anything above 200 would be scary in my opinion. I already have dyno'd 645 Torque at the wheels with about a 100 shot. My tranny will now have a limited lifetime, not to mention other items (pistons, heads, etc.).

These guys are right about that big of a shot with a separate fuel system and better fuel pump (or boosted).

However, I'd like to see your run with a 400 shot! :D :driver: :vollkommenauf: U can probably do it once.
 
There is a lot of good info posted here so far.

I am conservative as I owner/operated a Carb and EFI shop for years and I always look at the worst case scenario. Most of what we did was SBC, BBC with a lot of ricers thrown in the mix. Over the years I have seen several guys pop a motor by having a fuel system component fail, or partial failure that caused a leanout and severe engine damage.
I am probably a lot into overkill on this issue as I have seen many vehicles improve consistency with fuel system uupgrades. Better and more consostant half track times. Lots of MPH improvements.
I am as I said, old and paranoid.

Fuel system modifications are cheap and SRT-10 motors are really expensive.
 

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