Problem with a shop

Sharpimage

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Hey guys, I'm in a bit of a pickle and I need some advice on how to proceed
with this problem. First a little backstory. Also, this is about my chevy not my
dodge, I came to you guys because I need some advice from people I can trust
here...


About three months ago I went mud bogging with my chevy and wasn't intending
on driving it hard but I hit a rut when I was passing a pit and slid into it
sideways. I couldn't get out but ended up burning my clutches (automatic) trying.
I managed to limp it to a shop across the street where they did a tranny swap
for me and then I had it towed back to my apartment because my engine was
knocking pretty bad. I ended up doing an engine swap in the parking lot...
After all that was said and done I couldn't set the timing to save my life so I
had it towed to another shop whom I was referred to by a gentleman that works
at a machine shop that has a good reputation (been here 30+ years everyone
knows them etc etc...) I was told if there's someone that can do it well it's this
guy. Anyways, I get it towed over and had the gentleman set the timing but
he told me my carb needed a rebuild because one of the two primaries was
functioning properly and the secondaries were just clogged. So I went and got
a new carb because I needed the vehicle done ASAP. I brought the new carb.
to the mechanic and he installed it but told me I had a vacuum leak at the
intake manifold gasket so I brought him new gaskets because I wasn't trying
to work on this truck in high 20 degree weather with snow.


Now this is the problem. He told me he would have it done by Tuesday this week.
I called Tuesday afternoon to check but he hadn't started yet. He said
by Wednesday for certain. I called Wednesday to check and he said it was
done. I stopped by and the mechanic had left but his guy that handles most of
the side work was there. We tried to start it for about ten mins and it
wouldn't catch. The side man called the mechanic and the mechanic said he'll
look at it in the morning. Thursday morning he supposedly came in and got it
running without any problems and moved it outside. When I came Thursday
afternoon and tried to start the truck it wouldn't start. We popped the hood
and there was a puddle of antifreeze on the intake manifold as well as along
the edge of the intake gasket. He was also gone before I could get there and
this time the sidekick of his said he would call me early friday (today, he was
swearing by it) to meet me at the shop and go over any questions I had as
well as show me how to start it. I never got this call so I called about 11 o'clock
and apparently the sidekick was at another shop so I was passed to another
guy. This guy said the mechanic would call me directly in a few mins and that
he was pretty sure the mechanic had worked on it earlier in the morning. I
waited an hour and didn't get a phone call. So I drove over there and lo and
behold my truck hadn't been touched and the coolant was still there.

I didn't realize this but a friend of mine told me I could have been arrested
for trespassing because I was more or less working on my truck. I took the
battery out and brought it home so I could hook it up to a charger I also took
rags and put them in the puddle to soak it up.

How do I proceed with this? The mechanic and his sidekick keep blowing me
off or avoiding me, either one. I'm genuinely worried I might be getting
scammed or that there's something really wrong with the motor now and he
doesn't want to come out and say it. I was given the mechanics cell and he won't pick
up (I've only called once, I also left a message). What really bothers me is
today when he was supposed to call me in the morning. His sidekick
said he would be in for certain so I told him that I don't care what time he calls
me I'll come in within 15 mins. of that call so he can show me what's going on.
I stressed that I just wanted to speak to the mechanic for five mins about
this.

I really don't know what to do here... They've salted the roads pretty heavily
and every time I step in the dodge I nearly shed a tear at the thought of my
frame possibly starting to rust from the inside out. If he had done it on Tuesday
like he said my dodge would have been in storage. But now I face a snow
storm this coming week and there's no way I can drive to class in that truck
with snow. :(
 
I also forgot to mention that they absolutely destroyed my positive battery terminal.

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Damn Sharpi, sounds like you are at their mercy. I would definately be back down there during working hours and talk to the person in charge to find out what is going to be done.
 
FATJACK said:
Damn Sharpi, sounds like you are at their mercy. I would definately be back down there during working hours and talk to the person in charge to find out what is going to be done.

The problem is the mechanic is the owner of this shop :( I just want to go down
there with a sheriff and have this guy fix what's wrong with it, pay the bill, and
leave. I was gonna go out tonight and replace the t-stat housing gasket (where
I think the leak is) but I'm seriously not trying to get arrested for this. My
parents would kill me not to mention it would go on my record. :(
 
Don't go on their property to fix your stuff.
You need to get hold of the owner/ mechanic and find out WTF is up.
 
You have to be patient and just catch up with the mechanic/owner face to face.....I would camp out across the street from the shop waiting to see him come in and when u see him call and see what the say! As far as ur truck....DON'T TOUCH IT...its in their possesion and if u work on it and something is wrong they might try to swear up and down that ur problem came from u messing with it!
 
ya think the guy that recommended him could help ya or shed some light on the matter

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pay the man what he "says" you owe him...

pull the truck from the lot...cut your losses, and fix it somewhere else....

that's what i'd do if what you're describing happened to me...
 
Well there's two things I should add.

1) Apparently he just bought a new shop? If I don't see him Monday morning
would you guys recommend I drive over to this other shop and ask to see him?

2) Would it be a bad thing to just go and park at 5AM Monday and wait for
him to open? If he doesn't open should I just request to see him and wait
until he comes?
 
viperhauler said:
pay the man what he "says" you owe him...

pull the truck from the lot...cut your losses, and fix it somewhere else....

that's what i'd do if what you're describing happened to me...

Do exactly what Viperhauler said. Cut your losses with this guy and get somewhere else. If you do go on their property and they give you problems call the police and a tow truck after the cops get there.

As long as your truck is there you are at his mercy and he can charge you storage fee's or whatever he says that he has done in terms of labor.

Good luck
 
Really to adjust timing, replace intake gaskets, replace carb it shouldnt be much of a bill. Pay it and get out of there. Its bullshit that the owner/mechanic isnt there when you go. Where the hell is the guy going? If you are going there on regular hours then there needs to be someone there that you can talk to. Sounds like a very poorly run place.

Also just a note on the battery cable. Those make shift shitty clamps you are using suck balls. Go somewhere and have someone build you a proper crimped or soldered cable. Also replace the negative cable if it has the same shitty ends.
 
Most shops won't replace a thing, (battery cables included) without consulting the customer. That cable has green corrosion on it. That something that you had prior to giving it the shop.

They just most likely something they had to do just to get it started.
Just a little tip. (just going by your photo) If your going to have your truck or car worked on, wash it first. It only make is easier for the guy to try and figure out what's wrong. If you were mub bogging, I'm pretty sure your truck was a joy and pleasure to work on. They were most likely drawing straws to see who was going to have to work on pig pen. You'll get better service. Trust me on this.

If you don't like the service, pay for what they have done, and find someone else, or fix it your self is my suggestion.
 
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Call the b ureau of automotive repair for your state. Did u get a written estimate of the repairs to be performed?
 
What clogged the carb secondaries? The motor didn't ingest any crud or H2O? I assume you have a pre mid '80s truck with a 350 in it. Replacing the intake gaskets are pretty straight forward. And I wonder if the shop used a pry bar on the coolant T-stat housing to pull the manifold? That may explain why it is leaking? And yes, you need new battery cables.

And yes, I would "camp out" at the shop until the owner/mechanic showed up, settle the bill and try and find another shop.
 
take it to the house,intake gaskets are a breeze, so are battery cables.
 
Pay the bill if reasonable and haul ass. If it's unreasonable, then it's a legal thing. But remember, you kinda just dropped in with a problem and a guy you don't know and who doesn't know you. You are not going to be a priority in a busy shop, or any shop for that matter, unless they know you or are just excellent all around. He's gonna please his bread and butter's first. Sorry for your troubles.
 
Really to adjust timing, replace intake gaskets, replace carb it shouldnt be much of a bill. Pay it and get out of there...

The bill to swap the intake gaskets alone was 600 dollars... From what I understand
though the kid (19 years old) that did the job took a hell of a long time but they
billed me regardless.


Most shops won't replace a thing, (battery cables included) without consulting the customer. That cable has green corrosion on it. That something that you had prior to giving it the shop.

They just most likely something they had to do just to get it started.
Just a little tip. (just going by your photo) If your going to have your truck or car worked on, wash it first. It only make is easier for the guy to try and figure out what's wrong. If you were mub bogging, I'm pretty sure your truck was a joy and pleasure to work on. They were most likely drawing straws to see who was going to have to work on pig pen. You'll get better service. Trust me on this.

If you don't like the service, pay for what they have done, and find someone else, or fix it your self is my suggestion.

I know about having my truck clean. I've worked on this with wet mud and dry mud.
Both are a SERIOUS pain in the ass. I usually have to wear eye protection and
even then some of that sand gets in your eye... man... But that corner was just
a little dirty the rest of the bay was pretty clean. I pulled the old engine and
put the new engine in myself as well as installed the intake and carb. so there
really wasn't anything I hadn't touched in that regard so that really shouldn't
have made a difference.


Call the b ureau of automotive repair for your state. Did u get a written estimate of the repairs to be performed?

I didn't but I did ask the owner and he said it was going to be around 300 dollars
prior to the kid working on it.


What clogged the carb secondaries? The motor didn't ingest any crud or H2O? I assume you have a pre mid '80s truck with a 350 in it. Replacing the intake gaskets are pretty straight forward. And I wonder if the shop used a pry bar on the coolant T-stat housing to pull the manifold? That may explain why it is leaking? And yes, you need new battery cables.

And yes, I would "camp out" at the shop until the owner/mechanic showed up, settle the bill and try and find another shop.

The original motor that came with this truck was a built 383 forged pistons,
rods, cast iron aftermarket heads high volume oil pump etc etc... The first
time I drove this truck at the bog I was a complete dumbass and hit a pit
doing 10+ MPH so my engine ingested water. I spent a week during the summer
pulling the head, getting it machined, and installing everything back together.
I got it running properly but brought it to another shop to get it tuned properly
but they didn't use a timing light so I think that really was part of why that
old motor got destroyed along with a failing oil pump.


Thanks for the suggestions and ideas everyone. I have an update! After I left
that message on the mechanic/owners phone he called me back Saturday
morning to apologize about how this has turned out and that he had been
understaffed at his new location so he was doing most of the work there. He
explained to me the reason it wouldn't start was because the engine was fouling
the plugs too easy so he was trying to figure out what the heat range should
be and thinks I might want to go to a hotter plug. He then gave me his email
so I can send him the specs on the heads so he can get a better idea on how
to proceed. He also mentioned to me that his philosophy is "The customer comes
first"....... So he promised me over the phone he would have my truck running
without a hitch by Wednesday of this coming week. He also said he would have
it towed to his new shop and that it would all be done for free. :rock:
I'm not celebrating yet but I am pretty interested in how this will turn out.
Would you guys recommend any precautions I should take to the situation? The
mechanic said he will be the only one working on this from now on and that
the shop it's at now might be good but they aren't skilled in older vehicles and
that he spends most of his time at this new shop getting it operating smoothly anyways..
 

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