Putting a new engine in the Vette!

Black1 said:
I already know it's a "010" block (Casting number 3970010)... the thing about that is... that particular block could either be a 327 (1969 industrial or truck), a '69 302DZ (which it's not :eek: ), or a 350 (run of the mill, from 1969-80)...

did you check the casting date also if remove a valve cover you can check cylinder heads which help you narrow down its orgin
 
Black1 said:
I'm banging my head against the wall, trying to figure out the block code on this old engine. :banghead: I know the suffix is supposed to be 2 or 3 LETTERS telling you what the block is (350/327/302, etc).... but this block's suffix code is one letter and two NUMBERS!??!?! What the hell is that supposed to mean? :confused: :confused: :confused: Anyone have any ideas? :eek: :dontknow:

I make can make out "H64"... the rest is pretty hard to read, because some MORON decided to deck the block in the past. :rolleyes: :mad:

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Like Fredo said , the # is on the block behind the head(year and size ect.). The numbers on the front are info IE; F502c was the front #'s on my 283 F = Fremont ( were it was cast) 5 is the month, 02 is the day, and C tells what carb etc that it came with.
 
includemeout said:
Like Fredo said , the # is on the block behind the head(year and size ect.). The numbers on the front are info IE; F502c was the front #'s on my 283 F = Fremont ( were it was cast) 5 is the month, 02 is the day, and C tells what carb etc that it came with.

Yeah, that number is 3970010. It could be a '69 302, '69 truck motor, or a '69-80 2-or-4bolt main 350.... they used the same number for all of them. :dontknow: .... There is a "K12" stamped next to the 3970010 casting number. I haven't been able to figure out what that means either. :confused:
 
Black1 said:
Yeah, that number is 3970010. It could be a '69 302, '69 truck motor, or a '69-80 2-or-4bolt main 350.... they used the same number for all of them. :dontknow: .... There is a "K12" stamped next to the 3970010 casting number. I haven't been able to figure out what that means either. :confused:
K's usually go with GMC, just did one in a 75 GMC that had a Chevy in it.
The guy ordered an engine for a GMC and thier was one big difference in the block ...........it is cast with the dipstick boss in the front and on the opposite side..............go fiqure (*^%$#^#%^()
 
Black1 said:
No you know better than that, Earl! .... I don't drink BEER. :eek: :D
You are right Jake,put down the mixed drink then,and more work.:D
 
I thought I'd get some ideas on the "concept" for the new engine. :) I really want to keep it looking vintage, but that actually requires quite a few trick parts to pull that off. The ZZ4, like all the other sbc crate engines, looks pretty plain. Here's a picture:

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Normally, I like the black. :eek: :D But, for this application, I'm thinking the original "Engine Orange" paint would be best suited. So, when the engine arrives on Thursday, we are going to wipe it down with enamel reducer and re-spray it with Plexi-Kote in the correct orange. I've asked around, and it seems like it won't hurt anything if we paint the (aluminum) heads... :dontknow: We'll keep the intake manifold unpainted, and we need to buy a new water pump anyway (Corvette requires a "short" neck water pump) so we'll keep that unpainted too.

Next thing that was bothering me was using the factory exhaust manifolds on the new motor. They are not a perfect match, but they do fit, and it would allow me to use the rest of the exhaust that's already there. I didn't think there was any other option besides headers... which I don't want to do. I was poking around and found these Ram's Horn smooth manifolds from Speedway Performance! :rock: They have the correct (d-shaped) design, and the same look as the originals. But, they are supposed to flow WAY better... and they look awesome too, all smoothed out.

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Next was the valve covers... :banghead: The crap, stamped vc's that come on the ZZ4 look like ass. :eek: They are center bolt, due to the Vortec Heads, so I couldn't modify my finned "Corvette" covers to work. I couldn't find any other designs that I liked.... BUT, when I found the article on the Ram's Horns, they also put on a set of SWEET PML Valve Covers! My jaw dropped when I saw these!

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They will even mill holes in the correct place for pcv valves or breathers, if you like. They also cast the windage baffles right in the piece. :congrats:

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So... :eek: I have a Barry Grant Demon carb coming as well. It's their "crate engine" model, and was designed specifically for the ZZ4 GMPP engine. So, that should go well, and it looks purdy too. An added bonus is the Holley style design (float bowls sit in line with the block) which is more "nostalgia" cool than the EdelCRAP Weber carb I had on there before. :D

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Now, I just need to find a nice polished aluminum air filter housing... But, I'm sure that it's out there, somewhere. :marchmellow: Without further adue..... HERE is what it SHOULD look like once we're done. :rock:

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..... We'll see how close we get. :marchmellow: :burnout:
 
Gonna look great! Except... I like the aluminum heads the way they are... But! I understand the 'stock' look approach, so I will let it go... This time... :p

Wil
 
great Jake.... what HP is that ZZ4 engine :dontknow: .... is your oldie C2 capable of keeping that together ? :eek: :p :D :D
 

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