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The beginning of the long count in 3114 BC, long before the rise of Maya civilization, marks the date of Creation. But on the handful of Classical monuments that memorialize events of the mythic age, Creation is written 13.0.0.0.0, the completion of 13 baktuns, a period of about 5125 years. This suggests that the present age followed an earlier world that endured 13 baktuns. An inscription at Coba records even earlier epochs, counting back for some 13 x 2021 years.
The Popol Vuh preserved this tradition of successive creations or world orders. According to the Popol Vuh, the gods created humans to honour them: There would be "no high days and no bright praise for our work, our design, until the rise of the human work, the human design". But their first three efforts were failures. The third failed race, people fashioned from wood, were destroyed in a universal flood.

The antediluvian world was lorded over by Vukub-Cakix, "Seven Macaw," who took the place of the sun. To prepare for the creation of the true humans, the rule of Seven Macaw had to be ended. This was achieved by the Hero Twins of the Popol Vuh, who shot Seven Macaw from his tree.

The Quiche still identify the seven stars of the Big Dipper with Seven Macaw. At sunset on August 13, the Milky Way is nearly erect, and the Dipper is visible in the the northern sky in the Maya area. But as the heavens rotate, the Milky Way turns away from its upright position, and the Dipper dives toward the horizon. About two hours after sunset, the Dipper sets: Seven Macaw is knocked from his perch atop the World Tree. Dennis Tedlock reports that among the Quiche, the mid-summer descent of the Dipper just after sunset marks the beginning of the hurricane season, the time of flooding.
 
One of the most important structures in Palenque is the Tomb of Pakal, discovered in 1952 by Alberto Ruz Lhuillier inside the Temple of the Inscriptions. Pakal died on August 31, 683 at eighty years of age. He had assumed the throne on July 29, 615A.D. at the age of twelve, and ruled for 68 years. During his long reign—near the end of the Classic Period (AD 250-900)—Pakal transformed Palenque into a great city. Around AD 675, as an old man nearing death, he undertook the construction of his burial temple.

The scene depicted on the sarcophagus' lapidary stone represents the instant of Pakal's death and his fall to the Underworld. A strip of heaven (skyband) frames the entire scene with kin (day or the sun) in the upper right or northeast corner and akbaal (night or darkness) on the far left or northwest corner. The movement of the sun from east to west represents Pakal's journey from life into death. Symbols fill the background of this scene—shells, jade beads, signs of plenty, and others—carried on spirals of blood. The open mouth of the Xibalba, the Underworld, is carved on the bottom of the stone. Two dragon skeletons, united at the lower jaw, make up a U-shaped container that represents the entrance. The dragons' lips are curved inward, as though closing over Pakal's falling body. There, inside the Underworld at the center of the Universe, stands the Tree of the World with a Celestial Bird—symbol of the kingdom of heaven—poised on its highest branch.

The Tree of the World is specially marked as a sacred object: the symbols for te or "tree" confirm it is a cottonwood. The symbols for nen or "mirror" indicate that the tree is a shining and powerful being. The enormous figure of God C—symbol of blood and that which is holy—is inserted in the base of the trunk and is linked with Pakal's body. The tips of the tree's branches are shaped like the bowls used to catch sacrificial blood. Jade beads and tubes surround the square-nostriled dragons that are born from these vessels, indicating that they are especially sacred. These jewel-covered monsters are depicted in deliberate contrast to the skeletal dragons below them. Te first represent the heavens, the most sacred of the three levels of the Maya cosmos; the second illustrate the world of death into which Pakal falls.


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Tony, just ask the aliens when they land next time..They always land in some small town in the south..never a big city...There has never been a Buffy or Chad from New York abducted..Its always a Bubba or Hank from some ssmall town as they are on the way home from the bowling alley on a dirt road in a pickup truck..Your chances are good for getting an answer...Just a reminder tho..Beware of the anal probe....
 
Prof said:
And what then is the speed of dark?

same as the speed of light.

just can't see it :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
TNVIPER said:
Does a flashlight give off light or does it absorb darkness?..:marchmellow:


It emits light which dispels the darkness (darkness in simplest terms being only the absence of light)
 
Very Ponderous !!! As long as no matter where I go that's where I am,then all is good in the Universe !!!:rock: :rock:
 
when you get to were you are going to <<<your already there:D
 

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