Ram SRT-10 Service Manuals (2004-2006)

[JRSVIPR]

Just for an FYI in case anyone is concerned

I contacted Moss Bros Dodge in Riverside and San Bernardino California

http://www.mossbrosautogroup.com/ou/riverside-dodge/

I spoke to Mark in their service Department and he is 100% insistent that if my truck is a 2004 SRT-10 it takes 75/140 synthetic gear grease.

I asked several times and each time he was insistent on 75/140 and would not consider any other option I mentioned (75/90 or 90 wt) -

I asked what rear end was in the truck, he didn't know without looking, I asked if that would determine the weight of the fluid and once again he said

"If it is an SRT-10 it takes 75/140" PERIOD END of CONVERSATION.

Guess I will be staying with 75-140

I mentioned the shop manual for the 04 doesn't specify and he still didn't budge

Good info,But damn 75-140?

 

[RedSrt007]

Not sure 100% for the 60, but 75/140 does seem nomal for a diff.

-Red

 

[Prof]

I would like to purchase a service manual for my '04. But would rather pay a vendor here than a dealer...anyone got some for sale?

 

[includemeout]

Not sure 100% for the 60, but 75/140 does seem nomal for a diff.

-Red

Been checking since Wifey bought her truck in 04 (at many dealers near us)
and they all have the same answer. Most also suggested 2 bottles (OEM) friction modifier (thier compiled service records showed fewer problems with ( 2)

The 75-140 seems (to me at least) more protection due to the higher top # (140) while having the same viscosity when cold (75).

Any Thoughts????????????????????????

 

[Skyydiver]

Moparconnection can tell us for sure!!!

Hey Robert...how much for the manuals on disc?

Thanks
Joe

 

[Kevan]

Just for an FYI in case anyone is concerned

I contacted Moss Bros Dodge in Riverside and San Bernardino California

http://www.mossbrosautogroup.com/ou/riverside-dodge/

I spoke to Mark in their service Department and he is 100% insistent that if my truck is a 2004 SRT-10 it takes 75/140 synthetic gear grease.

I asked several times and each time he was insistent on 75/140 and would not consider any other option I mentioned (75/90 or 90 wt) -

I asked what rear end was in the truck, he didn't know without looking, I asked if that would determine the weight of the fluid and once again he said

"If it is an SRT-10 it takes 75/140" PERIOD END of CONVERSATION.

Guess I will be staying with 75-140

I mentioned the shop manual for the 04 doesn't specify and he still didn't budge

Mark is looking in the WRONG manual.
He is also looking at the WRONG differential.
Have Mark give me a call. I'd be happy to set him straight.
DIFFERENTIAL FLUID FOR 2004 - 2006 DODGE RAM SRT-10 REGULAR CAB PICKUPS:
75W-90 w/ 4 OZ. OF LSA.
PERIOD.
END OF CONVERSATION.
CLOSES FACTORY MANUAL.

 

[includemeout]

ttt:burnout:

 

[Kevan]

I guess we can do it in this thread as well:

2004-2006 Dodge Ram SRT-10 Regular Cab trucks

Differential Name: DANA 60-HD
Differential Model Number: 248 RBI
Differential Fluid: SAE 90
Fluid Amount: 2.8L, plus 118ml (4 oz.) of Limited Slip Additive (LSA)
[Source: 2005 Dodge Ram Service Manual; pages 21, 23, 514-571]

"SAE 90" is sort of complicated, esp. when it comes to synthetics.
If a synthetic or multi-grade lube says "75W-90", it is SAE rated for that range: SAE 75 through SAE 90, having the low temp qualities of the 75W and the high temp qualities of the 90W.
[Source: Automotive Lubricants Reference Book by Roger F. Haycock, John E. Hiller, Arthur J. Caines. Page 647]

ALSO:
I recently figured out that "HD" *does not* stand for "Heavy Duty".
It stands for Hop Damper (the linear shock on the Regular Cab truck differentials that prevents spool-up...and I, guess, hop too).

 

[Wifey]

I guess we can do it in this thread as well:

2004-2006 Dodge Ram SRT-10 Regular Cab trucks

Differential Name: DANA 60-HD
Differential Model Number: 248 RBI
Differential Fluid: SAE 90
Fluid Amount: 2.8L, plus 118ml (4 oz.) of Limited Slip Additive (LSA)
[Source: 2005 Dodge Ram Service Manual; pages 21, 23, 514-571]

"SAE 90" is sort of complicated, esp. when it comes to synthetics.
If a synthetic or multi-grade lube says "75W-90", it is SAE rated for that range: SAE 75 through SAE 90, having the low temp qualities of the 75W and the high temp qualities of the 90W.
[Source: Automotive Lubricants Reference Book by Roger F. Haycock, John E. Hiller, Arthur J. Caines. Page 647]

ALSO:
I recently figured out that "HD" *does not* stand for "Heavy Duty".
It stands for Hop Damper (the linear shock on the Regular Cab truck differentials that prevents spool-up...and I, guess, hop too).[/QUOTE

Been checking since Wifey bought her truck in 04 (at many dealers near us)
and they all have the same answer. Most also suggested 2 bottles (OEM) friction modifier (thier compiled service records showed fewer problems with ( 2)

The 75-140 seems (to me at least) more protection due to the higher top # (140) while having the same viscosity when cold (75).

Any Thoughts????????????????????????

This is what is so confusing (we have all the manuels also), however all the dealers in our area say the same thing :dontknow:

 

[Kevan]

Call them up and tell them it's a 2005 SRT-10 RC.
See what they say.

 

[includemeout]

Call them up and tell them it's a 2005 SRT-10 RC.
See what they say.

Hey Kev, Already did. "If it is an SRT-10 it uses 75-140".

I have been getting the same answer since 04:dontknow:

Maybe it is one of those "meets or exceeds manufactuers" things, as the manuel says natha about multi viscosity just 90 wieght.????????

 

[Kevan]

I've got a crisp $10 bill here that says they're only looking at the 2004 manual.
They won't realize their error until they get into the 2005 or 2006 manual.

How can they give you ANY kind of number when the SRT-10 differential is NOT listed in the 2004 service manual?

Ask him to fax/email you copy of where he's getting his information from.


Check my 2nd footnote/link regarding the SAE thing. They explain it a lot better than I do (and in much more detail).

 

[Kevan]

I did some checking regarding the LSA.
There is NO MENTION of doubling up on LSA additive anywhere in any of the 2004-2006 Service Manuals.

I do, however, need to correct myself:
LSA amount is FIVE (5) ounces for our differentials.

[Source: 2005 Dodge Ram Service Manual; page 23]
Thankfully, there's a +/- 1oz. tolerance.

And while we're doing corrections....
2.8L = 94.6 oz.
(As you can see above, the manual has it listed incorrectly as 48 oz. Oops!)

 

[Kevan]

Folks-
I've gotten a bunch of PM and email requests for the service manual(s). Unfortunately, I got into a little trouble when this thread first appeared. DCX said that I could keep the manuals I had as long as I didn't share them with anyone else.

I wish I could forward them to each and every one of you, but I'm not going to break my deal.

Sorry.

I will tell you this:
If you do anything more than waxing and tire pressure, GET A SERVICE MANUAL on disc!
I believe that VTCOA members/vendors TheMoparConnection and Dragon are authorized reps and can get you a helluva good deal on the service manuals.