So who's gonna do the next N/A build?

mosrt10 said:
Tim I visited Joe a few weeks ago and I have been really thinking about having Joe put a very aggressive cam in for me. I like the numbers my truck put down already and think with a Joe designed cam and having him tune my VEC I can put down some good numbers to the ground.
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I agree. I think you'd be very happy. I know I sure am.:rock:
 
NOS...got me 599 torque

06__QUAD__SRT10 said:
NOS :D :D :D
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the 100 shot got me almost 600 ft #'s...Just in drive not tow haul....don't know if the would make a difference



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BOOMER said:
with the right setup, in a truck, one could see around 600hp and the same in torque. it will cost the same money to do this, as adding a blower, but NA is very cool. we have Doneo's truck here now and we are doing it all NA, and our target goal is over 600. we have hit this in the cars before, no sweat with stock bottem ends, just head and valve train work, but the car's drivetrain isnt as parasitic as the truck with the Dana rear end, heavy 22" wheels and a long drive shaft etc.
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Hey Boomer, are you talking at the flywheel or at the rear wheels. Cause you'd have to be over 700/700 at the flywheel to hit those numbers to the rear wheels. That would be one heck of a N/A build.

With Striker street heads and the comp coupe cam, my engine was just shy of 620 pound feet before 5000 RPM. That's with a REDUCED compression ratio of 9:1, and essentially stock displacement. I don't think an HP N/A build should be without these heads. I doubt anyone could make stock heads flow like these without spending seriously stupid money, not like the Strikers are cheap themselves though...
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That sounds about right with the lower compression. I'm well over that number at the flywheel. My posted numbers are at the rear wheels.;)
 
Hey guys,
I have an good idea for my next cam...the split is a little different than Tim's with a bit more lift and a tighter centerline. It should have a strong torque curve from 2800 to 5600 and pull hard to 5800. With the same head package as Tim's I would like to see 540 and 575 SAE with standard bolt ons....hedders, cat back, cai, and rockers. I never did see Tim post his dyno sheets on here, but the curve is quite impressive over stock. I have used at least 20-25 different cam grinds on my vipers to come up with a couple of good choices. The truck is a different beast being so heavy, so I don't want to make any poor decisions on cam selection....it doesn't take much to make a real turd on the street. A big peak number with nothing under the curve will be a real slug in every day life.
Hey Boomer....you say you have make a couple of cars over 600 rwhp already...can you post some dyno sheets. I would be very curious to hear about your combinations. I have done a boat load of 488 packages and I usually end up in the 540-550 range. I have done a couple of 505 combinations and my best was 562 and 569 and it had a pretty wild hydraulic cam with a set of my ported heads that flowed over 315. The only way I think I could make over 600 rwhp (SAE) would be to add cubic inches, stroke change to get the torque, at least 11.0 to 1 compression, killer heads (Greg Good, Jeff Morey...etc), all the light weight goodies like on tim's heads, and a solid roller that may not be to street friendly.
I know Norm from Texas has a big cubic inch motor making those numbers(Lingefelter package), LME made those numbers on a 605 cubic inch motor(for Hennesy), and I raced George Brice with a big na package with numbers near there. I heard rumor that SVS had a 600 rwhp package also, but I haven't seen it yet. If you have the package figured out...let me know how, I want to get on the bandwagon also. 600/600 rwhp/rwtq will make a very stout package any way you slice it.
Later,
Joe
 
Annu Kumar said:
My Qc Makes 481 Ftlbs At the wheels with just a stage 2 and K and N. With Mids and a Catback I should be at about 510Ftlbs. And I would Love to have a High 11's N/A Qc:rock: :rock: any tips on that
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Annu, have you been to the track with your truck yet? Thats the first place to start. See what is runs now and go from there with your mods. 11's in a QC N/A is going to be pretty hard to get. IMO
 
PBJ said:
Hey guys,
I have an good idea for my next cam...the split is a little different than Tim's with a bit more lift and a tighter centerline. It should have a strong torque curve from 2800 to 5600 and pull hard to 5800. With the same head package as Tim's I would like to see 540 and 575 SAE with standard bolt ons....hedders, cat back, cai, and rockers. I never did see Tim post his dyno sheets on here, but the curve is quite impressive over stock. I have used at least 20-25 different cam grinds on my vipers to come up with a couple of good choices. The truck is a different beast being so heavy, so I don't want to make any poor decisions on cam selection....it doesn't take much to make a real turd on the street. A big peak number with nothing under the curve will be a real slug in every day life.
Hey Boomer....you say you have make a couple of cars over 600 rwhp already...can you post some dyno sheets. I would be very curious to hear about your combinations. I have done a boat load of 488 packages and I usually end up in the 540-550 range. I have done a couple of 505 combinations and my best was 562 and 569 and it had a pretty wild hydraulic cam with a set of my ported heads that flowed over 315. The only way I think I could make over 600 rwhp (SAE) would be to add cubic inches, stroke change to get the torque, at least 11.0 to 1 compression, killer heads (Greg Good, Jeff Morey...etc), all the light weight goodies like on tim's heads, and a solid roller that may not be to street friendly.
I know Norm from Texas has a big cubic inch motor making those numbers(Lingefelter package), LME made those numbers on a 605 cubic inch motor(for Hennesy), and I raced George Brice with a big na package with numbers near there. I heard rumor that SVS had a 600 rwhp package also, but I haven't seen it yet. If you have the package figured out...let me know how, I want to get on the bandwagon also. 600/600 rwhp/rwtq will make a very stout package any way you slice it.
Later,
Joe
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600+ rwhp via N/A = .....strykers+cam+all bolt ons+ compression change + 100 octane.....don't see it on pump gas:dontknow:
 
ViperTruck2933 said:
Was talking to Justin and Joe last night a little bit. Joe has some ideas on cam profiles for the next N/A truck build. Will be interesting to see how well the next one does.

My prediction is that it will be a serious torque monster with the curve spread out even more than mine. Mine makes over 500 ft pounds from 3400 to 5500 rpms. I think he'll hit 500 ft pounds even earlier in the band and hold it longer with the next one.
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I will Have the next high 11's N/A Build:D :D :D :D
 
Everything you can Imagine for N/A. Shit Flying Low ran 12.7 with just cats Delete, Catback, and Stage 2, And no headers.
 
Valaya Racing In San Jose, Ca. Maybe Dc In L.A. I still have to pay 18,000 in Federal taxes and 17,000 for a Lawsuit. So Once that is Clear Than I will go for it. Maybe by the end of the year.
 
Annu Kumar said:
Valaya Racing In San Jose, Ca. Maybe Dc In L.A. I still have to pay 18,000 in Federal taxes and 17,000 for a Lawsuit. So Once that is Clear Than I will go for it. Maybe by the end of the year.
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N/A won't get you into the 11's in a QC.....unless you are talking $25,000+ build.....

you need 650ish rwhp to hit 11's....
 
why does it take 650-ish HP to hit the 11s in a QC and 1000 to hit the 14s in a RC?...lol
 
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Riff62 said:
why does it take 650-ish HP to hit the 11s in a QC and 1000 to hit the 14s in a RC?...lol
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Sheep feces causes the driver's hand to slip off the shifter
 
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Nowhat with all due respect I don't get that theory. 12.7 without headers and 200 more horsepower for another .07 or .08 seconds (12.7-11.8)
 
Nowwhat said:
N/A won't get you into the 11's in a QC.....unless you are talking $25,000+ build.....

you need 650ish rwhp to hit 11's....
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Yeah for 25 k I could get a Blower and striker heads and possibly a beefed up tranny.
 
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