The Ocean...Matters

[Prof]

I love the ocean...but this woman loves it much more...

You need 20 minutes to listen...my heart aches and soars at different places in this presentation.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/sylvia_earle_s_ted_prize_wish_to_protect_our_oceans.html

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

I'll watch it when I return home prof, but if I had a camera with me , I would take you a couple sweet pics, but I kinda get the jsut of it, we treat the ocean as a dumping ground sometimes and take it for granted

 

[Prof]

Be safe friend...

 

[iraqivet01]

very inspiring and admirable lady. Makes our tiny little world seens like nothing compared to what she has done and seen in her years of study.

Were getting better, not like it was in the late 60's when I lived in Maryland. the rivers were so filled with trash and old junk cars that they warned people not to eat any fish.

Now those other countries that rape the seas. Green peace tried and is still trying, but unfortunately, more laws are against them, then with them.

 

[Begood]

Does anyone remember when the river in Cleveland caught on fire? Yes I said the river caught on fire, more than once.

Bill.

 

[JRSVIPR]

Does anyone remember when the river in Cleveland caught on fire? Yes I said the river caught on fire, more than once.

Bill.

Cuyahoga River fire 1969.

 

[Prof]

We are getting better! And few recognize that.

We just have to continue to get better.

 

[JRSVIPR]

Just curious, Does anyone know what the standard procedure for dumping waste from large sea vessels is? I'm talking human waste dumping from large cargo carriers and the such, They are at sea for months. Do they dump in open ocean, Or closer in to shore?

 

[iraqivet01]

I remember my dad chasing people down the street because they threw their trash out of their car window. I was embarrassed then, but as I got older, I grew to admire his guts to do what he did. (this was back in the late 60's and early 70's)

Most would bull up, but quickly back down and do the riight thing. I guess when you have a 220 lb half Italian and Cherokee Indian in your face, you weigh your opinions pretty quick.

He cleared a spot of land in Eastern part of Oklahoma to make it into a Pecon Grove. People will dump their trash off the bridge into the creek there. He would look through it, an usually they would have an old bill or letter inside telling where they lived. He would gather it up, put it in his truck and take it back to them. He's on the Sheriff patrol as a Volunteer. Their bad habits change pretty quick when a few County boys pull up in the drive way with a truck load of their trash.

He not saving a polar bear, or diving miles under the ocean, but I would say he doing his part.

 

[Prof]

There is a great book: "Cruise Ship Blues: The Underside of the Cruise Ship Industry", by Ross Klein.

And the answer to your question is just what you do not want to hear.

There is a huge amount of documentation in the book that shows the diversion systems that are built into the sewage systems of ships, that just dumps all waste into the oceans. Often they forget to close the valves when they enter ports...all of the major lines pay millions in fines every year and basically just consider the waste disposal fines as a cost of doing business.

I was on a commission in Jacksonville, that tried to impose iron clad agreements on the industry if they were going to use the Jacksonville port. It was just brushed aside by their lawyers.

 

[Prof]

I remember my dad chasing people down the street because they threw their trash out of their car window. I was embarrassed then, but as I got older, I grew to admire his guts to do what he did. (this was back in the late 60's and early 70's)

Most would bull up, but quickly back down and do the riight thing. I guess when you have a 220 lb half Italian and Cherokee Indian in your face, you weigh your opinions pretty quick.

He cleared a spot of land in Eastern part of Oklahoma to make it into a Pecon Grove. People will dump their trash off the bridge into the creek there. He would look through it, an usually they would have an old bill or letter inside telling where they lived. He would gather it up, put it in his truck and take it back to them. He's on the Sheriff patrol as a Volunteer. Their bad habits change pretty quick when a few County boys pull up in the drive way with a truck load of their trash.

He not saving a polar bear, or diving miles under the ocean, but I would say he doing his part.

That is the very essence of "Think Globally, Act Locally"

:congrats: :congrats: :congrats:

 

[JRSVIPR]

There is a great book: "Cruise Ship Blues: The Underside of the Cruise Ship Industry", by Ross Klein.

And the answer to your question is just what you do not want to hear.

There is a huge amount of documentation in the book that shows the diversion systems that are built into the sewage systems of ships, that just dumps all waste into the oceans. Often they forget to close the valves when they enter ports...all of the major lines pay millions in fines every year and basically just consider the waste disposal fines as a cost of doing business.

I was on a commission in Jacksonville, that tried to impose iron clad agreements on the industry if they were going to use the Jacksonville port. It was just brushed aside by their lawyers.

Thanks Roy, The reason i asked is because i have seen ships come into our harbor through the channel and go to one particular area in the channel and just sit there, I then noticed a large brown plume in the water. I believe they are dumping, And then waiting for the tide to take it out.