TIG welder help

The Precision TIG® 225 gives you the "Power to Perform", for general fabrication, automotive/motorsports, vocational schools or serious hobby work. Micro-Start™ II Technology delivers precision arc performance to improve arc starting, welding and weld cratering. Features like patented Auto-Balance™ and a built-in simple pulse control make the Precision TIG 225 easy to use. Professional features like the most auxiliary power, the widest output range in its class and more storage space make the Precision TIG 225 the best value.

Unit Includes
Precision TIG 225, Torch Parts Storage Compartment, Torch Hanger, 10 ft. Work Cable and Clamp, Removable Lift Eye, 9 ft. Input Power Cord, NEMA 6-50P Plug, NEMA 6-50R Receptacle, TIG Procedure Guide, GTAW (TIG) Handbook, PTA-17 Pro-Torch TIG Torch (12.5 ft., 1-piece), Gas Regulator with Hose, Foot Amptrol® (K870) and Understorage Cart (K2348-1). Shipped fully assembled. Shielding gas sold separately.

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Output
Input

Processes
Stick and TIG

Advantage Lincoln

Precision Arc Performance:
• 5-230 amps is the widest welding range in its class.
• Patented Micro-Start™ II Technology delivers extremely stable low amperage starting, welding and cratering for AC and DC welding.
• Excellent Stick Welder — Even with Fleetweld® 5P (E6010).

Simple Controls – Easy to Use:
• AC Auto-Balance™ automatically sets the optimal cleaning vs. penetration levels for great looking aluminum welds.
• FREE! Built-in TIG pulser helps control heat input in the weld.
• Digital Meter, and simple, well-spaced controls.
• FREE! GTAW (TIG) Handbook and TIG Procedure Guide.

Professional Features:
• Standard NEMA 6-50 plug on 9 ft. (2.7 m) input power cord with receptacle. (208/230 volt models only).
• 115 volt auxiliary power receptacles with 20 amp service reliably powers water coolers or other tools.
• Standard torch parts storage compartment and cable hanger keeps you organized.
• Ready-Pak® models include a Pro-Torch PTA-17 air-cooled 150 amp torch with new 12.5 ft. (3.8 m) Ultra-Flex™ cable.
• Add an optional understorage cart for extra storage and portability.

Superb Quality:
• Fan-As-Needed™ (F.A.N.) prevents overheating. F.A.N. reduces power consumption noise, motor wear and dust in the machine.
• CSA C/US certified.
• Three-Year Lincoln Warranty on parts and labor.
Physical specifications
Weight:258 lbs. (117 kgs. )
Dimensions (in) H x W x D : 31.2 x 19.8 x 38.0
Dimensions (mm) H x W x D : 792 x 503 x 965

Welding Specifications

Rated CC AC Output Amps/Volts/Duty Cycle Rated CC DC Output Amps/Volts/Duty Cycle Output Range
90/23.4/100% 90/23.4/100% 5-230A AC
5-230A DC

Lincoln 2yr. Extended Warranty Benefits

No out of pocket cost for repairs for the life of the extended warranty
Parts and labor costs are fully covered.
Repair worked performed by a nationwide network of Lincoln authorized repair facilities.
Extended warranty program backed by Lincoln Electric, not a third party.
Protect your investment for up to five full years.
 
SilvrSRT10 said:
Isn't Hobart now made by Miller?
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They are still made in the same place as before, Miller just bought Hobart a few years back.
 
I've never used a Lincoln TIG, but we have one of their MIGs at work. It works great, good quality machine. I would probably compare the duty cycles and go with the best one.
 
donnie I know you and ironskittles do a ton of welding, so any help is def apprecitated bud, I dont think I will go beyond 1/4 thick, most of that I will leave to someone else, but jsut want to make sure I get a good durable unit.

and I guess thats why I have leaned towards the miller, the mig i have is a good 7-10 years old and never had any probs with it, but from my understanding, lincoln is the welder of choice, but I cant seem to differ between the two:dontknow:
 
JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE said:
donnie I know you and ironskittles do a ton of welding, so any help is def apprecitated bud, I dont think I will go beyond 1/4 thick, most of that I will leave to someone else, but jsut want to make sure I get a good durable unit.

and I guess thats why I have leaned towards the miller, the mig i have is a good 7-10 years old and never had any probs with it, but from my understanding, lincoln is the welder of choice, but I cant seem to differ between the two:dontknow:
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Nothing wrong with the Miller at all. Like I said we use one at work and have never had a problem. Just don't go below the 200, that will take of any automotive fabricating you do.
 
We use Millers for our tig welding. If you have still need some help Tony on which to invest in let me know.
 
Cherry Performance said:
We use Millers for our tig welding. If you have still need some help Tony on which to invest in let me know.
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heck yeah dude, HHHHEEELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP stuck between the miller snyc 200 adn the lincoln 225, but now leaning towards the lincoln
 
JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE said:
heck yeah dude, HHHHEEELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP stuck between the miller snyc 200 adn the lincoln 225, but now leaning towards the lincoln
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Have a guy at work that has tons of knowledge on welders. I will give you a call tomorrow.
 
i used everyone out there it seems ..its not so much as to (what) is better but more of a BEING comfortable with it ,,,never seen a ton of diff between lincoln or miller ..its a matter of choice really,,:D as long as you get one over 200 to 225 amps ac/dc and 208/220 v long enough cables and a wand that is comfy in your hand ,,are parts easy to get ,does it look good in the garage ,,easy to hide from wife ,,,that sort of stuff;)
 
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For TIG, there's a big split between inverter style and transformer units. In Miller's line, Dynasty = Inverter and Sycrowave = Transformer.

The inverters are much lighter and more efficient with power use. Most big transformer styles aren't portable at all. An inverter you may be able to hide from the misses. A transformer, probably not, especially with your power bill. :)

I've got a Dynasty 300 DX setup with the cooler and love it. It's way more welding machine than I am welder, but I'd rather have it that way than be frustrated with a lesser machine.

Another distinction with the Dynasty line is the DX vs SD. The DX gets you pulse, sequencer, and spot controls.

Regarding Blue vs. Red in the 200A inverter line, Blue gets you a lift-arc in AC and DC mode, adjustable start parameters, lower power consumption, lower amp control, fan on demand to keep your machine cleaner inside. There may be more, but I remember those from when I was shopping some time back.

Another consideration is water-cooled torch. If you're doing production work and working a process where a lot of heat comes back into the tungsten, a water-cooled torch will keep you comfortable. I'll leave the rest to the experts: http://www.weldcraft.com/education/water-cooled-vs-air-cooled/

I got my setup slightly used for your budget. Pretty screaming deal, and I wouldn't expect to duplicate that on demand, but I'd bet you may be able to come close with this economy if you're open to used and don't need it tomorrow kind of thing.
 
cooll beans , guys:rock: :rock:

well harold, and irnpuppy, i am most comfortable with the miller I am sure.

I run alot on hunches and usually they do me well, and in the back of my mind , I keep telling myself the miller.

so with that in mind Harold, I like the 200 sries syncwavy thing:p

but they have a couple differnt models such as the runner, but I can tell much diff in th models, can yahelp me on this?:confused:
 
i am a certified welder:D thats what i went to school for man am i glad i finished that shit.. anyways..

i like miller tig welders best , jus my choice but for
2k a smaller miller tig should do u jus fine
 
JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE said:
cooll beans , guys:rock: :rock:

well harold, and irnpuppy, i am most comfortable with the miller I am sure.

I run alot on hunches and usually they do me well, and in the back of my mind , I keep telling myself the miller.

so with that in mind Harold, I like the 200 sries syncwavy thing:p

but they have a couple differnt models such as the runner, but I can tell much diff in th models, can yahelp me on this?:confused:
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The runner has the the cart and bottle rack with it.

http://store.cyberweld.com/milsyn180sdr.html
 
I've run both, but I tend to buy Blue. I'm not saying they are completely superior in every way, but I've certainly found 3 great deals on my MIG, Plasma, and TIG and they all are blue!

If you don't have a local source that you like their prices or service, checkout http://stores.ebay.com/Welding-Supplies-from-IOC (It's Indiana Oxygen from memory) I've purchased a ton of supplies and parts from them. Bill Keesling is my contact generally, but everyone has been helpful and I've found their service and prices beat most of the locals here in PHX.

They've got the 200 syncrowave runner (with running gear, torch, flowmeter) for $2139 shipped. :)

http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/spec_sheets/AD4-4.pdf

I believe you said 1/4" max, and this will handle that, but it's at the limit of this one. At it's limit, it's a 20% duty cycle, so you're welding 2 minutes out of 10. That may well fit with what you have in mind for your projects, but if not, consider another model. :) Also, figure on a 60A 220V circuit to run this one.
 
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