Traction Under Boost or Spray

[Prof]

Jack, that is an engineering marvel. It looks beautiful, but is it the way to go for a street machine with boost? Can you give us a laymans description of the why it works?

 

[NBT]

Just had to laugh Jack...as it represents your intent and drive to get it done right. Bitchin for sure...looks awesome Jack!:rock:

 

[SlicksMH]

I have to agree with the shaving calipers, get some slick, and transfer of weight. The M&H Nostalgia tires are capable and were designed to handle THOUSAND'S of hp for the top fuel dragsters; which we are all well below the scale at this point.

I have launched @ 5-6k rpm with just dropping the clutch and hooked with NO tire spin, but the lack of weight transfer is the problem....

So since tires is not the problem, it is the transfer that needs to be dealt with. As stinker said, the front end needs to extend and the rear needs to squat to get the back planted to the tire (which WILL handle it with no problems..). So what options are there without going to extreme? Adjustable shocks on the front and rear and caltracs would be a good starting point. Next would be to dial in the suspension with spring rate changes in the front / rear; from there you can get into the fabrication of 4 link's, wishbone, etc....

my 2 cents

Patrick

Good Job Patrick.:top: :top: :top:

 

[Silverback]

Jack, that is an engineering marvel. It looks beautiful, but is it the way to go for a street machine with boost? Can you give us a laymans description of the why it works?

The short version of why it works is it's ability to transfer the weight, hence traction to the rear wheels. A four link has all kinds of adjustability which allows you to fine tune it to a track and the track conditions.

If you have ever seen NHRA Pro Stocker run, you will understand. They have four times our stock HP and weigh a little over half our weight. No wheel stands. No excess spinning off the line. They just shit and git when set up correctly.

 

[Texas Yellow Fever]

Traction solution.

Couldn't they find a place to weld a couple more cross members, pan hard bars or links of some kind? That is a busy rear end, but I bet you are right, it is the answer.:burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

 

[NBT]

Couldn't they find a place to weld a couple more cross members, pan hard bars or links of some kind?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

 

[Rice Eater]

Traction solution.

OMG...Jack is that on your truck!???

 

[Black1]

Traction solution.

Damn, if I tried to put all that on paper... My mind would go numb. What a job! Holly cow! :burnout: :rock:

 

[Blakewilder]

That looks sick Jack!

 

[Texas Yellow Fever]

Traction solution.

Jack,
You should ask these guys if they could do a weld in or bolt in kit based on this work of art...they'd prolly sell several right here on the site.

 

[Silverback]

Jack,
You should ask these guys if they could do a weld in or bolt in kit based on this work of art...they'd prolly sell several right here on the site.

Bolt in would not work, but you can buy a kit from Art Morrison that would work with minor (remember, that is a relative term) work.

 

[Nowwhat]

Traction solution.

holy crap Jack...................

 

[Rice Eater]

it looks like its on a truck right guys?? I have a friend in WA state that could fab that up.....they build similar setups for their rock crawl buggies

 

[Black1]

it looks like its on a truck right guys?? I have a friend in WA state that could fab that up.....they build similar setups for their rock crawl buggies

Those look like SRT-10 RAM calipers to me! :dontknow: :idea:

 

[FSTJACK]

Those look like SRT-10 RAM calipers to me! :dontknow: :idea:

Correctamundo, on the calipers.

That pic was shot before the rear end was shortened and reworked with Mark Williams parts. The only Dodge things that were left after the rework, are part of the housing and the tone wheel (speedo/ABS brakes). Everything else has been replaced. The pic also does not show the Koni Double adjustable coil overs.

The 4 link has to be built into the truck. No chasis shop makes a 4 link backhalf kit that is anything near this big and beefy. In the pic there are some parts such as stock spring hanger brackets, ect that wont be there on the finisned version.

 

[Black1]

Correctamundo, on the calipers.

That pic was shot before the rear end was shortened and reworked with Mark Williams parts. The only Dodge things that were left after the rework, are part of the housing and the tone wheel (speedo/ABS brakes). Everything else has been replaced. The pic also does not show the Koni Double adjustable coil overs.

The 4 link has to be built into the truck. No chasis shop makes a 4 link backhalf kit that is anything near this big and beefy. In the pic there are some parts such as stock spring hanger brackets, ect that wont be there on the finisned version.

You sure that is enough bracing Jack? :dontknow:

 

[FSTJACK]

You sure that is enough bracing Jack? :dontknow:

All the pieces that are there are necessary to get the J O B done.
In the pics it looks much more intense than it really is, in person.

 

[Black1]

All the pieces that are there are necessary to get the J O B done.
In the pics it looks much more intense than it really is, in person.

No, I agree! I was getting crosseyed over some bracing that you had coming off the axle... But, I see why it is there now. :burnout: