True Ram Air???

[vvv90]

Does anyone make a bolt in sealed ram air intake to take advantage of our hoods?

If so, does it make more HP than any of the offered CAI's??? (of which I still need to do research on anyway.)

 

[speed junkie]

its called volant. it has what looks like a snorkel coming off of it. I here that a regular k&n drop in is the best bang for the buck as far as HP increase goes

 

[nycstev]

Does anyone make a bolt in sealed ram air intake to take advantage of our hoods?

If so, does it make more HP than any of the offered CAI's??? (of which I still need to do research on anyway.)

It looks to me like these trucks already hav a CAI. The box on the Passenger side takes air from the fender o cowl area
which is "cold air". Alot of the members reccomend just putting in Droip in
filtr to get more flow. another poster mentioned that the hood is for general engine cooling which makes more sense IMO

 

[vvv90]

It looks to me like these trucks already hav a CAI. The box on the Passenger side takes air from the fender o cowl area
which is "cold air". Alot of the members reccomend just putting in Droip in
filtr to get more flow. another poster mentioned that the hood is for general engine cooling which makes more sense IMO

Yeah, I knew the whole purpose of the hood was really for engine cooling. I was just curious if someone made a kit to get ram air from it instead.

Just like most cars today a CAI is stardard even though people are under a dillusion that you need to buy a new one. I put a Mopar CAI on my 300 because it sounded better, not because it made HP. I'm guessing the drop in K&N is best for performance. Just curious of my options. Thanks.

 

[GILMO'S10]

I HAVE A VOLANT CAI ON MINE.ALOT OF MONEY FOR MOSTLY
SOUND.DO HAVE THE "SNORKEL" HOOKED UP FOR RAM AIR.
DONT KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY DIFF OR NOT.GO WITH THE DROP IN

 

[nycstev]

Well Cai should produce additional power since density is increased. But with that, addititonal fuel is needed to maintan same AFR. So uless the PCM units in your car does that then I would say no you wouldnt have a HP increase but probably a HP decrease! As far as these trucks go Like I said I think that factory box is a CAI ( why would Dodge do anything less?) Just can use a CFM upgrade.

 

[vvv90]

Well Cai should produce additional power since density is increased. But with that, addititonal fuel is needed to maintan same AFR. So uless the PCM units in your car does that then I would say no you wouldnt have a HP increase but probably a HP decrease! As far as these trucks go Like I said I think that factory box is a CAI ( why would Dodge do anything less?) Just can use a CFM upgrade.

That's just it, the Hemi's are speed density so AFR isn't affected. Stock ones perform great.

Are the Viper V10's MAF or SD?

Man! There's so much I need to learn about this truck.

 

[nycstev]

..LOL What I know about the specifics of these trucks can fit on the head of a pin, But I do know lots of Engineering Science!

 

[BIG NANA]

Mopare performance has a bolt on cold air induction that was available in 04, it used a snorkel that attached to the hood and then when you closed the hood, it would seal down on a new CAI box and tube that went back towards the passenger rear of the front fender under the hood.

 

[vvv90]

Mopare performance has a bolt on cold air induction that was available in 04, it used a snorkel that attached to the hood and then when you closed the hood, it would seal down on a new CAI box and tube that went back towards the passenger rear of the front fender under the hood.

Do you have a link where I can see pictures and prices of it?

 

[Prof]

There are rumors that persist that say in wind tunnel testing the hood scoop on our trucks (04 & 05) were good at cooling....because they extracted air...didn't push air in...the pressure from the bottom seemed to win...some say because of the air dam lip on the front bumper...

But you know rumors...we need an aeronautical engineer to explore this...and prove or disprove the rumor....

Silverback, where are you when we need you?

 

[NBT]

There are rumors that persist that say in wind tunnel testing the hood scoop on our trucks (04 & 05) were good at cooling....because they extracted air...didn't push air in...the pressure from the bottom seemed to win...some say because of the air dam lip on the front bumper...

But you know rumors...we need an aeronautical engineer to explore this...and prove or disprove the rumor....

Silverback, where are you when we need you?

:dito:

Also, the scoop/opening would probably need to be a bigger to support enough CFM through it to feed the motor. :rock:

 

[GILMO'S10]

SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS,THE SNORKEL DOES NOT HELP
BUT MAY HURT HP?

 

[vvv90]

I found this at moparsupercenter.com:

Part # P4510921

Price = $693.16!!!! Holy Jeebus!!!

"Ram SRT-10 Ram Air Induction SystemGo BackMopar's Ram Air Induction System creates a ram air effect at speed of 40 mph plus. It intergrates seamlessley to the underside of a ram air induction hood system to route cool outside air into the cold air intake filter area. The Ram Air hood system is constructed from lightweight material and install directly with no modifications.Genuine Mopar Performance Part."

No picture though.

Did anybody on this forum flip the coin for this?

 

[bigike]

I'm thinking of cutting a 5" hole in the black plastic on the pass side grill, and cutting a 5" hole in the front side of the air box or on the bottom and connecting it with a 5" hose that has foam around the end that goes to the grill. That will RAM air

 

[Prof]

SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS,THE SNORKEL DOES NOT HELP
BUT MAY HURT HP?

I doubt that in non-boosted engines that it would hurt...but it is way too small an opening for anything above 1 atmosphere, IMHO. But under wot operation there is a huge demand for air...I would not want to starve an engine that I want to perform well that way...kind of like a restricter plate...and we do have the DC Performance and X-Metal dyno tests that saw no gains from any CAI and some that lost hp with CAI units. (Oh no, I've opened that sore again...sorry...not.)

And vvv90...in marketing and advertising we would call those words puffery...certainly not a lie, but really not a claim that anyone has tested or would want to...if it were certifiable that would be news and a real sales tool.

 

[Silverback]

There are rumors that persist that say in wind tunnel testing the hood scoop on our trucks (04 & 05) were good at cooling....because they extracted air...didn't push air in...the pressure from the bottom seemed to win...some say because of the air dam lip on the front bumper...

But you know rumors...we need an aeronautical engineer to explore this...and prove or disprove the rumor....

Silverback, where are you when we need you?

Roy, I have commented on this a number of times and gotten tired of being called an idiot.

Screw em. They can figure it out on their own or do a search. The thread is here somewhere.

 

[Nowwhat]

Roy, I have commented on this a number of times and gotten tired of being called an idiot.

Screw em. They can figure it out on their own or do a search. The thread is here somewhere.

To help Silver....the area around the hood scoop is a low pressure area at speed....that is ...air flows out ...not in...
a snorkel does....NADA......

 

[vvv90]

To help Silver....the area around the hood scoop is a low pressure area at speed....that is ...air flows out ...not in...
a snorkel does....NADA......

Ok, I know I'm new and this topic has probably been beaten to death but I have to ask.

If it's a low pressure area due to the larger volume of air coming from the bottom of the truck wouldn't making a sealed Ram air system negate the air from the underside of the truck?

[EDIT] Actually it's a low pressure area you're looking for. A HIGH pressure area is what it probably is.[/EDIT]

 

[Silverback]

To help Silver....the area around the hood scoop is a low pressure area at speed....that is ...air flows out ...not in...
a snorkel does....NADA......

Thanks Mike. I'm just to tired and grouchy I guess.

Anyway, Shawn and Izzy did a test with a flow meter and some ribbons taped to certain areas to determine airflow.

The short version is that the faster they went, the less air went into the hood scoop.

It's not a Ram Air.

Sorry for my earlier outburst.