Which is better?

FlyingLow

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If you have extra cash each month is it better to invest for retirement (IRA) or pay off debt? By debt I mean credit cards or other bad debt. Assume that the interest rate on the debt is less then 12%. Now that I'm recovering from all my legal bills I'm trying to figure out what is better. You can never get the time back from missing a year of contributions but credit card debt is a killer.
 
I'm no financial analyst, but my vote goes to pay off the credit cards!!
 
Paying off the credit cards is the best, imho.

It will be hard to find a retirement fund that is going to be returning more than your interest rate on a credit card. So you'll save more money is you pay off the cards first.
 
I think it's best to invest in MODS. :rock:





j/k, I'd def pay off the credit cards first. I would never carry a balance on one unless I absolutely had too.

Then I'd invest in retirement funds after the debts are cleared.

JMHO.:burnout:
 
FlyingLow said:
If you have extra cash each month is it better to invest for retirement (IRA) or pay off debt? By debt I mean credit cards or other bad debt. Assume that the interest rate on the debt is less then 12%. Now that I'm recovering from all my legal bills I'm trying to figure out what is better. You can never get the time back from missing a year of contributions but credit card debt is a killer.
Are you contributing to the TSP? If so, your contributions go in there before taxes and interest is tax free. However, your IRA has limits on what amount is invested before taxes. Assuming your officer Mil Pay, you are probably above the limit earned income to be tax free investment. In that case, pay off Credit card debt, but not house debt first. I think in the near future, you will see the Military match some contributions to the TSP.

So, not really knowing your finicial strength and plans, I would agree with the rest:

1) Mods
2) CC debt
3) TSP
4) Investments
5) Other debt
6) Mopar Nationals Beer Fund
 
I do a little to TSP but no matching funds. I'm living in base housing so no taxable interest. TSP is like a traditional IRA as opposed to a Roth. I do more Roth just because the interest is tax free.
 
IMHO Try to pay off your CC debt first....not only will you get that outta the way for any unforseen circumstances where you will need cash or credit, but you will be able to invest more once they are paid down.

To be honest, only you know your financial situation best. :D
 
You definately should consult a financial advisor who knows what he or she is doing. Getting out of debt is a misnomber. You can make more on your money by investing in real estate backed money markets than you can on paying off current debt here's why. If you pay your debt off you will have no debt, but no cash either. If you have a lower debt to income ratio you might be better off investing the money you have and continuing to pay your existing credit card bills. Note.....Do Not invest in the stock market right now. In most all instances the returns are less than 4%. If you want good solid adivce on Real Estate backed funds PM me and I will help you!!:D
 
Rockin Ronnie said:
You definately should consult a financial advisor who knows what he or she is doing. Getting out of debt is a misnomber. You can make more on your money by investing in real estate backed money markets than you can on paying off current debt here's why. If you pay your debt off you will have no debt, but no cash either. If you have a lower debt to income ratio you might be better off investing the money you have and continuing to pay your existing credit card bills. Note.....Do Not invest in the stock market right now. In most all instances the returns are less than 4%. If you want good solid adivce on Real Estate backed funds PM me and I will help you!!:D

Dude! I just dropped a perfectly good beer!! Where the hell did you come up with all that Ronnie??:dontknow: ;) :D
 
FlyingLow said:
I do a little to TSP but no matching funds. I'm living in base housing so no taxable interest. TSP is like a traditional IRA as opposed to a Roth. I do more Roth just because the interest is tax free.

TSP is close to a Roth not an IRA:

There are two tax benefits to making tax-deferred contributions to the TSP:

* Your TSP contributions are taken out of your pay before taxes are withheld, so you pay less tax now.

* Taxes on contributions and attributable earnings are deferred until you withdraw your money.


Matching funds hasn't happened yet for the Military but it is coming.

http://www.tsp.gov/features/chapter03.html
Tax-deferred contributions are before-tax contributions. When you participate in the TSP, you make before-tax contributions. That means the money you contribute is taken out of your pay before Federal and, in almost all cases, state income taxes are withheld. Therefore, the amount used to calculate your taxes is smaller and you pay less in taxes now.

Your TSP contributions are excluded from the taxable income reported on IRS Form W-2, Wage and Tax Statement, that you receive from your agency each year. Thus, you do not report them on your annual Federal tax return. This special tax treatment does not affect your salary of record for other Federal benefits — such as the FERS Basic Annuity, the CSRS annuity, or life insurance — nor does it affect Social Security or Medicare taxes or benefits.

By paying less current income tax, you have more take-home pay than if you had saved an equal amount that was not excluded from taxable income. Deposits to a regular savings account do not provide such an advantage. To give you an idea of the advantage of saving through before-tax contributions to the TSP, let us suppose, for simplicity, that you are a CSRS participant earning basic pay of $30,000 a year. Let us also assume you are in the 15 percent tax bracket.

If you contribute 5 percent each pay period (or $1,500 per year) to your TSP account, you will owe $225 less (15% (your tax bracket) x $1,500) Federal tax in the current year than if you had not contributed to the TSP. This is because when you save through the TSP, your contributions are not included in the amount on which your tax is calculated. The difference in your tax bill will be even greater if the state in which you live permits tax-deferred savings, as most states do.


By participating in the TSP, you defer (that is, postpone) paying Federal taxes on the money you contribute until you withdraw the funds from your TSP account. In addition, over the years, the money in your account will accrue earnings. These earnings are also tax-deferred. This means that you do not pay income taxes on contributions and earnings in your TSP account until you receive the money — usually after you retire (when your tax bracket may be lower). Deferring the payment of taxes means that more money stays in your account, working for you. The longer your money is invested, the greater the benefit of tax-deferred earnings will be. Whether you can also defer state or local income taxes depends on the jurisdiction in which you live, although most states permit such a deferral.
 
Pay off debt....


Buy the book: "Total Money Makeover" by Dave Ramsey.
 
I got your answer Smoke

let the cards go, let em take ya to court, you'll only have to pay pennies onthe dollar on what you owe

Screw retirement thats for wussies, after 65 who gives a crap anyway/

dont invest in anything , nothing is secure.

Take the extra money , buy a whore, some beer, some weed, party your ass off!!


Then use the rest for your lawyer when your wife finds out:D
 
I got your answer Smoke

let the cards go, let em take ya to court, you'll only have to pay pennies onthe dollar on what you owe

Screw retirement thats for wussies, after 65 who gives a crap anyway/

dont invest in anything , nothing is secure.

Take the extra money , buy a whore, some beer, some weed, party your ass off!!


Then use the rest for your lawyer when your wife finds out:D
 
Stinker said:
I got your answer Smoke

let the cards go, let em take ya to court, you'll only have to pay pennies onthe dollar on what you owe

Screw retirement thats for wussies, after 65 who gives a crap anyway/

dont invest in anything , nothing is secure.

Take the extra money , buy a whore, some beer, some weed, party your ass off!!


Then use the rest for your lawyer when your wife finds out:D

now that's some funny s**t !!!!:D
 
KRAZYSRT10 said:
Dude! I just dropped a perfectly good beer!! Where the hell did you come up with all that Ronnie??:dontknow: ;) :D

Yeah. Who kiddnapped the real Ronnie?:confused: :dontknow: Give us back the old idiot that we all know and love.;) :p :D

Wait a minute. I just figured it out.:idea: He wanted to get his one useful post for the year out of the way on New Years Day. Now he can go back to being a post ho for the next 364 days.;) :p :D
 
Thanks for all the info. I know a lot lean towards pay the debt first. But I have also heard pay yourself first. This is why is a hard decision to make.
 
Pay off debt, then retirement....now, depending on 401k's and other options, it's likely that some type of mix/working with both/ may actually be more beneficial....
 

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