WizzySRT10
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Mine used 9.5 quarts.
WHOLLY GOD ENOUGH ALREADY!
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Black1
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WizzySRT10 said:
Yeah, but yours is an '06 and has a different (bigger) oil pan.
They shouldn't have put 10 qts in the truck.... and ESPECIALLY shouldn't have put another 2 qts in later.
Like others said, drain your oil and start over. That is, unless you don't care if your truck is gone for 2-3months, while they put the new motor in.
Good luck.
GotRidOfTheHemiForThis said:
Jesus F*cking Christ. I cannot believe what the hell I'm reading on this thread.
"Yea that strange, i watched the guy pour 10 fing quarts in and they all fit i couldnt believe it! I was like wholllly sh*t that all fit! Plus according to the dodge computer there it said between 9-10 quarts?"
Of course it fit. You could pour 15 quarts in and it would fit. Doesn't mean it's right. You are not pouring sand in a f*cking boot for gods sake. Oil does not fill up the entire engine cavity.
Wait until the next oil change? He's your friend and a Viper tech? Sounds like a damn idiot to me. You have no idea how much oil is in the truck and he says to wait?
Okay, so far my dear daughter has given you some important information. It's the length of the 2004 dip stick. Go measure the one you have. Not that hard to do and it will identify or eliminate that as a possible cause of the issue.
If it's not the same length then you need to get the correct dipstick for your truck. And don't believe the bullshit that they don't make it anylonger. They are required by federal law to supply parts for 7 years. Sounds to me that they are just giving you what they have.
And for gods sake, change the f*cking oil and put in 8.5 quarts as the manual states. It is the correct amount for 04/05 trucks.
Do you still have the old Dip Stick? I hope you do because you can modify that one to still work. Get a new handle from MGW accessories...take a look at mine. I had to remove the old handle and use this one.
You can call them at (706) 793-1770
BTW sorry the engine is so dirty in the pictures...
You can call them at (706) 793-1770
BTW sorry the engine is so dirty in the pictures...
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Black1
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CarDude said:..........
BTW sorry the engine is so dirty in the pictures...
..... SHOWOFF! 
newmexicoviper
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Drain the oil & start over, never let those fools do anything you can do yourself, your truck with thank you for it.
Black1 said:
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Marc T
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GotRidOfTheHemiForThis said:I searched the forum and didnt notice any threads on my problem. But here goes, today i went to the dealership to pick up a new dip stick because my old one broke, simple enough right? Well while there my tech threw it in and went to test it because it was a little different than the old one i had, he pulled it out and no OIL! None! So we thought maybe the engines still to hot and well wait for a few and it will be there so about 20 min later same problem NO OIL ON THE STICK! We waited well over an hour and nothing so my tech started putting in oil, I was 2 quarts low. I just had a oil change about 1500 miles ago, so how in gods green earth was my truck low by 2 quarts!???? Do these burn that much oil is that normal or is it a ring maybe anyone else have experiance with this????:dontknow:
It is not uncommon to burn oil in the 04's. The crank case ventilation is poorly designed to say the least. Even with the Roe breather you will still get blow by into teh intake if you have the stock breather set-up.
I recommend you check your oil frequently as long as you run the stock system!!
Mine did the same thing until I insatalled a catch can!!
Silverback said:
Ok well heres the issue, it not that we dont know how much is in there, its that it took 2 quarts to even get a reading on the dip stick! We knew we were low, but for my engine to burn that much is odd!
Oh and by the way i was frustrated, i didnt mean could a engine hold that much oil, i ment wholly crap this engine needs this much.
I am currently changing the oil myself right now, and im gonna do it again at 1500 miles from now to check it again. As far as the dip stick im lost here, the first one was a distinct difference in the build like a little bobber where the oil fill was the new one is just a plane old dip stick. Knew they were both different the min we opened. Im having a reorder done to see if i get something the same or different.
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ViperTruck2933
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As previously stated, your 04 model should use 8.5 qts of oil with a standard size oil filter. If you are running the oversized performance oil filter you might need more than 8.5 (possibly as much as 9.5) but no more than that unless your truck for some reason has an 06 oil pan on it. :dontknow:
And your truck SHOULD NOT be burning 2 qts of oil between changes. It shouldn't burn 2 qts of oil in 30,000 miles IMO.
And your truck SHOULD NOT be burning 2 qts of oil between changes. It shouldn't burn 2 qts of oil in 30,000 miles IMO.
I went through the same thing awhile ago. Did a post on oil consumption at that time, But i could not find it when i just did a search. Dealer said it was normal to go through a quart in a thousand miles. I ended up doing two things, I went to Justins catch can set up, And switched to 15w-50w oil. Have not had a problem since.
J.R.
J.R.
Marc T
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ViperTruck2933 said:
It won't burn it if you puusy foot around, but if you get on it alot with the 04 Crank case Breather set up you will consume oil.
Just stand behind an 04 with the stock breather set up, rev it up and you will see a nice burp of blue Smoke on the deceleration!! There have been many posts about intakes being full of oil when they were removed on the 04's.
ViperTruck2933
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I must have just got lucky I guess. I run mine HARD and it doesn't burn oil. :rock:
I run mine HARD and it doesn't burn oil. :rock:
Marc T
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ViperTruck2933 said:I must have just got lucky I guess.
Are you running a catch can from JMB?
Venom Power
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Stanimal said:
Good thinking... You COULD assume the oil change was done incorrectly 1500 miles ago, but with a $15k motor I would not take chances. As soon as I would have seen it low I would drain that puppy and place 8.5 - 8.7 quarts of cheaper oil just to check he level. If it is a the right level then drain cheap oil and refill with M1 because oil burning should NOT be an issue with your truck. If it is still low then the dipstick could be the wrong length, since you said it was different.
Venom Power
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I have to clear this up... What's the correct oil weight? I've been doing 10W30 every time. Yet, last week when I went to Dodge to buy a Mopar filter the guy in the parts department said it took 5W30... Is he pulling my shaft or was he right? I never asked before and I went and bought a whole case of Royal Purple 10W30.. :dontknow:
The 04s call for 10w-30w.Venom Power said:
J.R.
Stanimal
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says 10w 30 on the oil cap
GotRidOfTheHemiForThis said:
Sorry, bad morning on my part. My fur was badly matted.
On my truck it would go through a quart of oil every 1000 miles in city driving.
Now when I went down to Bakersfield last year it did not burn a drop over the entire trip. I generally cruised in the 80 to 90 MPH range. Seems like they burn more with stop and go driving.
Once again, sorry I kind of jumped on you. My fault, not yours.
Silverback said:Sorry, bad morning on my part. My fur was badly matted.
On my truck it would go through a quart of oil every 1000 miles in city driving.
Now when I went down to Bakersfield last year it did not burn a drop over the entire trip. I generally cruised in the 80 to 90 MPH range. Seems like they burn more with stop and go driving.
Once again, sorry I kind of jumped on you. My fault, not yours.
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