will i feel a differce with volant cai?

[''500hp'']

i was wondering if i would feel a differce if i install a volant cai and a magnaflow catback plz help

 

[Texas Yellow Fever]

ABSOLUTELY! You'll hear a big difference too...

 

[Prof]

Some people say yes...but we cannot document a difference with a dyno. In some instances CAI reduces the hp.

It looks good, sounds good, but most of the data says that the stock air in take is more efficient...adding a drop-in filter rather than the paper one seems to add some hp.

If you want the "bling" CAI systems are good. From a performance standpoint you would be better off to stick with the stock air intake system.

Welcome to the forum...you should also know that "500hp" at the rear wheels requires some mods...DC uses the crank hp as do most manufacturers.

 

[Wifey]

i was wondering if i would feel a differce if i install a volant cai and a magnaflow catback plz help

Yeppers! At least on the magnaflow cat backs :rock: . Can't say for sure on the volant mine isn' t installed yet I've heard them and they sound wicked

 

[BOOMER]

not to go to deep into this, but we and DC performance-both of us-have dynoed the Volant and lost hp with it. get what you like, but hp isnt what its about

 

[Hamrhead]

IMO, if you want power, spend that cash on a Stage2 Flash w/ the extra PCM.:rock:

Though, the Magnaflow cat-back DOES make the truck sound waaay better!

 

[Kevan]

Some people say yes...but we cannot document a difference with a dyno.

Who is "we"? Forum members?

In some instances CAI reduces the hp.

I'm not sure I buy this, unless it's a CAI placed next to the headers.....which would make it an HAI.
Mopar also offers a couple of CAI and ram air kits for the trucks. I doubt they would sell them if they *decreased* HP, especially for that kind of money.

Volant's site says "up to 36 HP". As we've found out on this forum, 10 dynos will get you 10 different numbers, so....
Max is 36.
Min is 0.
Average would be 18.

I don't understand how improving airflow to the throttle body would decrease horsepower. That's illogical.
Some light reading for everyone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake


The Magnaflow, however, is pretty easy to see (via dyno/eyes), feel (SOTP), and hear (ears/the guy behind you) the difference.

 

[mmmmtorque]

Yes, you will feel a difference....your wallet will be alot thinner

Jury is out on all CAI's for the Ram SRT-10....Magnaflow is a good mod and should reap 15-18rwhp. Improves overall sound as well

As mentioned....PCM flash is $ better spent...Get a CAI for the looks and sound...just dont expect much in regards to hp gains...

 

[Prof]

Who is "we"? Forum members?
I'm not sure I buy this, unless it's a CAI placed next to the headers.....which would make it an HAI.
Mopar also offers a couple of CAI and ram air kits for the trucks. I doubt they would sell them if they *decreased* HP, especially for that kind of money.

Volant's site says "up to 36 HP". As we've found out on this forum, 10 dynos will get you 10 different numbers, so....
Max is 36.
Min is 0.
Average would be 18.

I don't understand how improving airflow to the throttle body would decrease horsepower. That's illogical.
Some light reading for everyone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake


The Magnaflow, however, is pretty easy to see (via dyno/eyes), feel (SOTP), and hear (ears/the guy behind you) the difference.

See Boomers comment above...is that "we" good enough? I'm just an old fart that listens to Boomer and DC Performance. But I am wrong a lot! Just ask all of my wives!

 

[''500hp'']

See Boomers comment above...is that "we" good enough? I'm just an old fart that listens to Boomer and DC Performance. But I am wrong a lot! Just ask all of my wives!

well i just wanna know if ill feel it under accelration

 

[Prof]

well i just wanna know if ill feel it under accelration

PM Marc T...I think he has volant...he will give you the straight scoop.

 

[Kevan]

See Boomers comment above...is that "we" good enough? I'm just an old fart that listens to Boomer and DC Performance. But I am wrong a lot! Just ask all of my wives!

Gotcha.
I'm not trying to start anything. Just curious how HP can go down by increasing airflow. Unless there were other changes to the vehicle or the testing environment, there's something wrong with that.
I listen to Boomer and the DC guys as well. I'd just like an explanation of their results (and how their testing was performed, if they want to spill it).

PM Marc T...I think he has volant...he will give you the straight scoop.

Fantastic pun!


BACK ON TOPIC:
Any CAI probably won't pin you to the back of the seat any harder than the stock airbox.
You will probably be able to feel a healthier jump with the Magnaflow.

 

[Prof]

Gotcha.
I'm not trying to start anything. Just curious how HP can go down by increasing airflow. Unless there were other changes to the vehicle or the testing environment, there's something wrong with that.
I listen to Boomer and the DC guys as well. I'd just like an explanation of their results (and how their testing was performed, if they want to spill it).
Fantastic pun!

Several times I have heard people opine...that Chrysler just got the air flow right for this particular application...sometimes the engineers do it right!


BACK ON TOPIC:
Any CAI probably won't pin you to the back of the seat any harder than the stock airbox.

Unintended! But I will take the credit anyway!

You will probably be able to feel a healthier jump with the Magnaflow.

Concur!

If you have the quad cab...think first about the flash! It is my understanding that this is the mod with the most kick for the dollars.

 

[Marc T]

PM Marc T...I think he has volant...he will give you the straight scoop.

Nope no Volant here, Just a K&N, and I don't think it was worth the cash!! I even think the Stock box looks better, except of couse the accordian tubing. If you could replace that with something that looks better you would be set!!

IMO<

Get the K&N drop in, Magnaflo, a flash and you will get a major kick in the pants over stock!! Eliminating the Cats is a great power adder also!!

Mod On my friend!!:rock:

 

[includemeout]

There was a complete post done on this by a couple of members and the data was analyzed by Silverback one of our resident engineers. All the pictures indicated it was a low pressure area on the hood as shown by the tape that was standing straight up while the truck was going down the freeway. If it would have been a high pressure area the tape would have been laying flat against the hood towards the opening. They were not. It is a heat vent not an air scoop. As far as ram air goes there is no ram air affect until you reach about 125mph. So far IMO there is no true ram air set up for this truck. Anything ran through the stock airbox will bleed pressure through the hole in the wheel well. The only benefit is cold air. You can check out this site: www.airram.com he has alot of info and they work great on hemi's. The air conditioning line will be in the way to install this unless you change it. As far as drop in filters go, I think someone put all the drop in filters on a flow bench and if my memory serves me correctly the K & N and similar products flowed at about 500 cfm and the stock one flowed at about 625 cfm. Other than just obtaining some good sounding noice and a few points for bling get the magnaflow.

If you want a volant, I will sell you one that is new in the box. PM me.

 

[03-DSG-SVT]

Hmmm I always thought that Volant costs wayyy too much for a CAI...You'd be better off finding one cheaper. I know that most people say that a closed box is worth more hP/TQ...but I read in a magazine where a test was preformed on two different CAI's one w/a closed box, the other was open and both achieved the same results. It is pretty much really up to what you want your engine bay to look like.

 

[Rockin Ronnie]

Hey Bro Welcome!! I noticed right away when I did my catback system that it was considerably touchier on the throttle then it was before, meaning it seems to me to be a little quicker off the line. Just my opinion though the guys in the mustang GT's hate me in my neighborhood.:rock:

 

[Kevan]

Hmmm I always thought that Volant costs wayyy too much for a CAI...You'd be better off finding one cheaper.

With the Mopar CAI at $750, the Volant looks like a deal.

 

[03-DSG-SVT]

DAMN!!! You guys better shop around.. or fab something up .... can you say HOMEMADE lol... I have seen some good air box set ups made with a plastic Rubbermaid trash can.

 

[mauiSRT/10]

well i just wanna know if ill feel it under accelration

Probably not really...........but you will hear it.

As you can see here, there is not many of us that will reccomend a CAI for performance. Sound better yes, look blingyer yes!!!! Is that a word?:dontknow: With what I know now, I would not spend the money on the CAI. I do like the sound of it though.

Magnaflow? A must mod. Stock setup sounds like dogshit.

patrick