7.0 Earthquake in Haiti

[Blacksnake]

Obama just blamed Bush for the earthquake...

Yer a turd

 

[Black1]

I bet it'll be cleaned up and back to normal WAY faster than New Orleans (which is STILL laying in rubble).... just a hunch.

 

[bigredv10]

they probably have bottled water already and RICE TOO!!!

 

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I bet it'll be cleaned up and back to normal WAY faster than New Orleans (which is STILL laying in rubble).... just a hunch.

Maybe it will be like Krakatau, then everyone in Florida can get a Fema loan and build a new ocean front home at the tax payers expense...............

Over a century ago, on August 26,1883, the island volcano of Krakatau ("Krakatoa") in Indonesia, a virtually unknown volcanic island with a history of violent volcanic activity, exploded with devastating fury. The eruption was one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in recorded history. The effects were experienced on a global scale. Fine ashes from the eruption were carried by upper level winds as far away as New York City. The explosion was heard more than 3000 miles away. Volcanic dust blew into the upper atmosphere affecting incoming solar radiation and the earth's weather for several years.

A series of large tsunami waves generated by the main explosion, some reaching a height of nearly 40 meters (more than 120 feet) above sea level, killed more than 36,000 people in the coastal towns and villages along the Sunda Strait on Java and Sumatra islands. Tsunami waves were recorded or observed throughout the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the American West Coast, South America, and even as far away as the English Channel

 

[Black1]

Maybe it will be like Krakatau, then everyone in Florida can get a Fema loan and build a new ocean front home at the tax payers expense...............

Over a century ago, on August 26,1883, the island volcano of Krakatau ("Krakatoa") in Indonesia, a virtually unknown volcanic island with a history of violent volcanic activity, exploded with devastating fury. The eruption was one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in recorded history. The effects were experienced on a global scale. Fine ashes from the eruption were carried by upper level winds as far away as New York City. The explosion was heard more than 3000 miles away. Volcanic dust blew into the upper atmosphere affecting incoming solar radiation and the earth's weather for several years.

A series of large tsunami waves generated by the main explosion, some reaching a height of nearly 40 meters (more than 120 feet) above sea level, killed more than 36,000 people in the coastal towns and villages along the Sunda Strait on Java and Sumatra islands. Tsunami waves were recorded or observed throughout the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the American West Coast, South America, and even as far away as the English Channel

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carry on.

 

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carry on.

BY ROBERT SAMUELS
[email protected]
Although earthquakes are typically associated with the West Coast, the Caribbean is actually a seismically active area, where plates and fault lines are still shifting below the surface.

``That's how you got all the islands in the first place,'' said Dale Grant, a geophysicist at the National Earthquake Information Center near Denver.

The earthquake that hit Haiti on Tuesday occurred at 4:53 p.m. and measured a 7.0 magnitude. It was centered just 15 miles from Port-au-Prince, the capital city of nearly 1 million people.

While smaller quakes happen frequently in the Caribbean, none close to this size had been seen in Haiti in more than 25 years, Grant said. That was in June 1984, when a quake measuring 6.7 occurred about 150 miles away from Port-au-Prince.

A tsunami watch was issued Tuesday for Haiti, Cuba and the Bahamas. But the likelihood of a tsunami in the Caribbean is lower because the shifting plates occurred on land, said Florida International University professor Grenville Draper, an expert in Caribbean geology.

Here's what geologists think happened:

The actual quake appears to have occurred along the Enriquillo-Plantain Garden Fault, a virtually immovable rock that runs from Montego Bay in Jamaica to the southern part of the island of Hispaniola, which Haiti shares with the Dominican Republic. That vertical fault is pushed by the Caribbean Plate, a unsettled land mass that moves about 20 millimeters east each year.

According to Paul Mann, a research scientist at the University of Texas in Austin, the plates have been pushing against the fault since a major quake in 1760. On Tuesday, the plates got the fault to move.

What the plate did to the fault is akin to a human trying to move a grand piano across a floor, Draper said. The person will push and push with no effect -- then, the piano will suddenly slip forward.

Such movement is relatively small compared with plates moving underground in California, Draper said. The effect would be less-frequent earthquakes, but relatively large ones when they do occur.

The slip Tuesday appears to have occurred around six miles below the earth, Draper said, resulting in the large earthquake. The closer the slip is to the surface, the bigger the quake.

 

[Django]

Thanks for not mentioning what that cheese-dick Pat Robertson said.....

He's an embarrassment to the faith..........

D

 

[Ram From Hell]

I bet it'll be cleaned up and back to normal WAY faster than New Orleans (which is STILL laying in rubble).... just a hunch.

How exactly are you going to tell when that has happened? That place is a dump, earthquake or no earthquake.:dontknow:

 

[FSTJACK]

Heard on the news this AM that there might be 500,000 people killed there.

What a bad deal.

 

[Black1]

How exactly are you going to tell when that has happened? That place is a dump, earthquake or no earthquake.:dontknow:

Well... The $100,000,000 in aid Mr. Obama just pledged to help Haiti should build it back a little better than before. Although, sadly, the people of Haiti will never see a cent of it, I bet.

 

[Black1]

Heard on the news this AM that there might be 500,000 people killed there.

What a bad deal.

They don't use re-bar in (most of) the buildings down there. They crumbled like sand castles. It's a learning process for them. .... A painful one, unfortunately.

 

[Prof]

There is an opportunity to completely rebuild one of the poorest nations in the world. It will take a great deal of foresight and planning, but we could assist in providing an example to the world of what can be done when all of the nations of the world pull together to rectify a terrible situation.

It is a small enough nation that if the world focuses on rebuilding a nation not just doing the short term urgent requirements.

I know it is very early to be speaking strategically but it is an opportunity that might serve as a wonderful opportunity to rebuild a society that has long needed so much.

 

[Black1]

There is an opportunity to completely rebuild one of the poorest nations in the world. It will take a great deal of foresight and planning, but we could assist in providing an example to the world of what can be done when all of the nations of the world pull together to rectify a terrible situation.

It is a small enough nation that if the world focuses on rebuilding a nation not just doing the short term urgent requirements.

I know it is very early to be speaking strategically but it is an opportunity that might serve as a wonderful opportunity to rebuild a society that has long needed so much.

Why were they poor and "third world" in the first place, Roy?

 

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Why were they poor and "third world" in the first place, Roy?

2 unhuman dictators

World: Americas

'Bring Baby Doc to justice'

Baby Doc Duvalier - tens of thousands killed and tortured under his rule

A group of Haitian exiles living in France has called for the arrest and trial of the former president of Haiti, Jean-Claude Duvalier.
They say that 47-year old Mr Duvalier, better known as Baby Doc, should be charged with crimes against humanity because of his role in tens of thousands of murders during his own rule and also in that of his father, known as Papa Doc.

"It is our duty to make sure Jean-Claude Duvalier is tried for the memory of the 60,000 victims of his regime and that of his father Francois," said Gerald Bloncourt, founder of a committee seeking a trial for the former dictator.

BBC Paris correspondent Hugh Schofield says the arrest of the former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in Britain has given heart to the exiles that Baby Doc Duvalier could be brought to justice.

No official asylum

Jean-Claude Duvalier fled spiralling unrest in Haiti in 1986, and settled in France, although the French authorities have never formally granted him political asylum.

He was allowed to enter the country on an eight-day visitor's visa by then Socialist Prime Minister Laurent Fabius, who is now president of the National Assembly, but the authorities turned a blind eye when his documents expired.

The French Ministry of the Interior now says it has "lost track" of Mr Duvalier who it says has "probably" left French territory.

But Haitian exiles claim that Duvalier was seen in Paris in mid-1998.

Mr Duvalier's lawyer in Paris, Sauveur Vaisse, also says he is "still living in France", but would not say where.

According to Mr Bloncourt of the exiles' committee France is still protecting Mr Duvalier.

"He comes and goes freely and all the authorities claim to ignore where he is, that's impossible," Mr Bloncourt.

Pinochet's precedent
General Pinochet - still under arrest in London
Mr Duvalier's lawyer said that his client had been shocked at recent press reports comparing him with General Pinochet, but had no fear that any attempts to bring him to trial would succeed.

"For the time being, Jean-Claude Duvalier is not the object of any complaint of this type in Haiti or in France," Mr Vaisse said.

The Duvaliers ruled Haiti from 1957, when Papa Doc came to power and, helped by his private militia, the Tontons Macoutes, introduced an iron fist rule.
On his father's death in 1971, 19-year old Baby Doc was named president for life and continued in Papa Doc's footsteps.

Iron fist rule

During their 31-year rule tens of thousands of people were killed, some tortured to death. It has been alleged that even on the eve of his flight into exile Baby Doc was torturing and killing prisoners in the presidential palace.

Baby Doc was alleged to have brought with him a fortune of tens of millions of dollars looted from his country, and for the first years of exile he lived in luxury on the Cote d'Azur.

But his luck changed when divorce from his wife cost him most of his fortune. He left his villa without even paying the telephone bill, and is now said to be destitute and sick.

 

[Prof]

Thanks Jerry...that about sums it up.

The record of Haitians in the US has been sterling! Most of them that get here legally, become entrepreneurs, and contribute to both their native society in Haiti and make considerable contributions to the US economy and culture.

The Haitian students I have had over the past 10 years have been incredible!!! Very highly motivated...greatly love learning...and very, very appreciative of the opportunity provided by this country.

Most Haitians live on less than $400 a year. There is very little electricity, thousands die annually because they cook with wood inside their huts...most of those deaths are women and children who's lungs have been destroyed by the smoke from cooking.

When the sun goes down in Haiti only flames provide light for 90% of the country. No refrigeration for medicine outside of the main population centers.

Haiti would provide a wonderful place to completely power with solar power! I hope the world will be far-sighted enough to not re-build power plants...but try to make Haiti a futuristic energy nation that uses clean sources. It could be the base of a totally different Haitian future...they have already made a quantum leap in terms of telephone use...they went from no phones directly to cell phones...avoiding the distributed concept of land lines in most of the nation...maybe they will make the same kind of leap in terms of locally sourced power rather than a distributive system!

 

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Thanks Jerry...that about sums it up.

The record of Haitians in the US has been sterling! Most of them that get here legally, become entrepreneurs, and contribute to both their native society in Haiti and make considerable contributions to the US economy and culture.

The Haitian students I have had over the past 10 years have been incredible!!! Very highly motivated...greatly love learning...and very, very appreciative of the opportunity provided by this country.

Most Haitians live on less than $400 a year. There is very little electricity, thousands die annually because they cook with wood inside their huts...most of those deaths are women and children who's lungs have been destroyed by the smoke from cooking.

When the sun goes down in Haiti only flames provide light for 90% of the country. No refrigeration for medicine outside of the main population centers.

Haiti would provide a wonderful place to completely power with solar power! I hope the world will be far-sighted enough to not re-build power plants...but try to make Haiti a futuristic energy nation that uses clean sources. It could be the base of a totally different Haitian future...they have already made a quantum leap in terms of telephone use...they went from no phones directly to cell phones...avoiding the distributed concept of land lines in most of the nation...maybe they will make the same kind of leap in terms of locally sourced power rather than a distributive system!

Sure would be nice to disconnect from the oil companies and such as they create a form of slavery leaving everyone at their mercy ( and they plan it that way )
An island with wind and sun, what an opportunity to start a major change in the way people live..............I sure hope and pray someone at the top will have the intestinal fortitude to make it so.

 

[Prof]

It could be a small example to the world of what can be done...once there is clean, inexpensive energy, education will thrive, business will flourish, and democracy will be demanded.


I have written to several television programs in an effort to urge them to become a champion for this forward thinking approach...

 

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It could be a small example to the world of what can be done...once there is clean, inexpensive energy, education will thrive, business will flourish, and democracy will be demanded.


I have written to several television programs in an effort to urge them to become a champion for this forward thinking approach...

Great idea Roy :rock: :rock: :rock:

I think it would be huge, Haiti could be the Living Laboratory the world population is looking for. Lets hope there are some Futurists in the Planning Department................

 

[Silverback]

There is an opportunity to completely rebuild one of the poorest nations in the world. It will take a great deal of foresight and planning, but we could assist in providing an example to the world of what can be done when all of the nations of the world pull together to rectify a terrible situation.

It is a small enough nation that if the world focuses on rebuilding a nation not just doing the short term urgent requirements.

I know it is very early to be speaking strategically but it is an opportunity that might serve as a wonderful opportunity to rebuild a society that has long needed so much.

I totally disagree, and will explain further when I get home this afternoon.

 

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I totally disagree, and will explain further when I get home this afternoon.

Fiquers................Are you worried about the Bananna Production???