So I fixed my lines...

[ViperCLKGTR]

Well I fixed my p/s lines, threw on a nice set of Stinker's, flushed the system, hooked her up. Was in the process of filling her up with some RP P/S Fluid. When I was turning the wheel to get the pump to circulate so I could top her off, that horrible "empty" p/s hum went away, and then I noticed a weird feel in the wheel and all of a sudden this horrible noise. Ran to check under the hood and boom my pump blew up! Just my luck right, as soon as I fix one something else "POPS" (I never was the best comedian). The only thing we could figure was with all the leaks the old pump could keep up but when running at full pressure it was to much. I ordered a new pump it got here yesterday and this new shop I was recommended to took a 5-day weekend for the Holiday(EVEN BETTER!) so I'm out the 10 till at least Monday. Hopefully it'll be a quick turn around.

Before anyone gets on to me about doing it myself they quoted me $40 in labor, I'm providing the parts. I didn't think it was that bad for the frustration I won't have to endure and renting a pulley puller. Plus another 10 owner says their work is amazing. I just don't know how with that huge engine bay, Dodge couldn't space out things a little better!

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

Haven't other people had problems after installing tonys lines? Are they the same diameter as stock or smaller?

 

[ViperCLKGTR]

Haven't other people had problems after installing tonys lines? Are they the same diameter as stock or smaller?

That I'm not a 100% sure the old lines are already in the trash. They seemed the same size? My old '04 Ram 1500's p/s pump went out for no reason once and I was feeling the same symptoms with my pump. That's why when I ordered stinker's line I was gonna just a buy a new puimp and put it on to avoid that possibility but some of the guys and Tony said I should've been ok :dontknow:

 

[ViperJeff]

For what it's worth, I had the steering rack on mine replaced, within a week of that happening the pump went out... imagine that

 

[Midnight Runner]

I have the steering, oil and heating lines. Never had a problem with any of them.

 

[Yellow venom]

There's been others with issues, I know of one that put them on and the line didn't last a day, if I recall I think it was an o-ring blew out after installed.

 

[rottenronnie]

Haven't other people had problems after installing tonys lines? Are they the same diameter as stock or smaller?

I spoke with Tony way back when the replacement lines were being built for sale as a replacement for the leaky stock lines. I thought then it would be a great thing to have as the fitting that often seemed to fail on the o.e.m. hoses were on national back order and I'd just be replacing something that would fail again over time if I replaced a poorly designed fitting with a brand new poorly designed fitting. We cut it open and looked at the 50 cent fitting that is supposed to last...Thanks Dodge.

Maybe they still are, but at that time, the aftermarket hoses were a smaller diameter than o.e.m. lines and gave the steering a lighter feel, as a smaller line would normally increase pressure and would explain the change in steering feel. Personally, I didn't like that and wondered about limited capacity through the lines in a high-demand situation.

The o.e.m. hose fitting goes inside the power steering fan motor and has a beveled end with an o-ring that seats inside of the housing an inch or so. The aftermarket design has (or had) a simple flat washer that has to seal on the outside face of the aluminum fan motor housing and relies on the washer to hold back up to 3000 p.s.i.

After several attempts (over the period of a few days), I could not get mine to seal and I ended up with an epic mess under the whole truck, right up to the back of the tailgate. So, in other words, the pump and fan motor ran dry. I eventually lost steering, which wasn't fun. I'm very glad I was driving the truck and not someone else. I was sent an "upgraded washer" but that didn't work either. So, the aftermarket hoses ended up in the junk.

I had some new lines built at a local Industrial hose shop. The steering feels the same and they do not leak. The Industrial hoses will likely outlast the truck.

There are likely quite a few trucks using the aftermarket power steering lines so evidently, they don't all leak.

Ronnie

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

Ronnie did the hose shop you used have the correct fitting to fit the fan motor

 

[rottenronnie]

Ronnie did the hose shop you used have the correct fitting to fit the fan motor

No, we re-used ALL of the ends that Dodge used. The fitting coming off of the top of the pump is the one that has the crappy plastic o.e.m. part inside that often fails and leaks. The rest of the o.e.m. hoses rarely cause a problem other than the usual sweating. We silver-soldered the problematic swivel connection (eliminating the factory plastic fitting inside of the connection, that leaks) coming off of the top of the ps pump and used a good, Industrial hose to finish it.

The silver solder is good for 6000+ p.s.i., so well above what the power steering pump could ever produce.. If it doesn't make sense, I will try again for you...kinda busy at the moment.

Ronnie

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

I think I know what you're talking about

 

[rottenronnie]

I think I know what you're talking about

So basically, the leaky swivel joint is silver-soldered to be solid and all the factory hose ends are used with brand new high pressure Industrial hoses.
I like this method because it doesn't change the way the steering feels, retains the proper heavy duty factory fittings and they will NEVER leak.
Just another way to solve a problem.

And no, I don't sell them.

 

[viperhauler]

my pump just exploded one day... no warning, leaking, etc...

i did put on the jtsvp lines and i did have an initial leak. i was sent an upgraded washer for the leak (and it was very small, anyway)... never leaked again...

this was my experience... and as a matter of fact... they're still on there now...