so now he doesnt have to listen to his father b/c he lives with his mother. bs i have a 16 yr old that i havent talked to since feb. he has nothing to do with me. im pretty much in the same boat. i give him his space. he knows i love him. he also know where i live and my phone number hasn changed. i told him last time i talked to him its his move. id still make him play by my rules as long as he is in my house, period. tough love is exactly that fellas.