Anyone been using HHO gas conversion?

I threw together a really simplistic and not very efficient generator before my Dollywood trip. I believe it gained me a couple miles a gallon. I have since disconnected it and my mileage has returned to normal. I have lots of room for improvement and need to get some more supplies. I think it works.
 
SilvrSRT10 said:
I threw together a really simplistic and not very efficient generator before my Dollywood trip. I believe it gained me a couple miles a gallon. I have since disconnected it and my mileage has returned to normal. I have lots of room for improvement and need to get some more supplies. I think it works.
it works man! on the next trip to the beach I had an upraded model, ran the same way got 39mpg! didnt want to post it, figured no one would believe me;)

then whilst pullin in out to change the fluid..............dropped it:p gotta make another one:D
 
do you have to buy parts at the hardware store to make it work? what was the nominal highway mileage you were getting prior? more info please. wonder if this would be adaptable to fit on a motorcycle?
 
mr. anderson said:
do you have to buy parts at the hardware store to make it work? what was the nominal highway mileage you were getting prior? more info please. wonder if this would be adaptable to fit on a motorcycle?

yes , yes, yes:D first stainless steel is a must, anything else will rust up, my ol mazda regularly got 23-24mpg with the first set up it got 30mpg, with the last I used stainless plates with drilled holes, and it got 39.6 mpg

I'm sorry I dont have too much time for details today, got a ton to finish up ,then gotta be in Jersy in the morn:eek: , but do a search for it on the internet you will find tons and tons:rock:
 
I'm jumping into this head first (figured I'd lead with the least important body part).

I've been buying up the equipment not only to run an HHO system, but to do R&D on them as well. I have a very nice pulse width modulator for the power supply to the electrolysis cell, software/hardware combo to use a laptop as an oscilloscope, and ordering a regulated variable power supply and calibrated gas flow meter. Some of the goofballs I've seen on You Tube are using a simple ball in a glass tube to measure HHO production (while connected to a running engine!), and using that as a basis for their cell's production. I intend to be substantially more scientific in my approach. I've spent many hours over the last few weeks researching what other people have experimented with, and can't wait to begin.

I also have been researching the safety aspects of working with this stuff. Building a power ventilated Lexan cube to house the cells undergoing testing, and designing an effective flashback preventer are musts. Everyone knows hydrogen is volatile, right?;)

Finally, I want to put together a first-rate package that not only works, but looks decent! So many of the systems just look like crap. Also, the key to making these systems produce results is being able to get the vehicles ECU to lean out the engine sufficiently. I don't recall whether Stinker is using an O2 sensor extender or an EFIE (electronic fuel injection enhancer), which physically and electronically (respectively) alter the O2 sensor's signal to the ECU to cause it to lean out the air/fuel mix. Being able to manually adjust the signal electronically makes the most sense to me, as you could bump it safely above the point of detonation (monitoring EGT's would also seem to help, although users are reporting lower EGT's when adding HHO as it is).

All I need to do now is pick a test vehicle...:D
 
Ram From Hell said:
I'm jumping into this head first (figured I'd lead with the least important body part).

I've been buying up the equipment not only to run an HHO system, but to do R&D on them as well. I have a very nice pulse width modulator for the power supply to the electrolysis cell, software/hardware combo to use a laptop as an oscilloscope, and ordering a regulated variable power supply and calibrated gas flow meter. Some of the goofballs I've seen on You Tube are using a simple ball in a glass tube to measure HHO production (while connected to a running engine!), and using that as a basis for their cell's production. I intend to be substantially more scientific in my approach. I've spent many hours over the last few weeks researching what other people have experimented with, and can't wait to begin.

I also have been researching the safety aspects of working with this stuff. Building a power ventilated Lexan cube to house the cells undergoing testing, and designing an effective flashback preventer are musts. Everyone knows hydrogen is volatile, right?;)

Finally, I want to put together a first-rate package that not only works, but looks decent! So many of the systems just look like crap. Also, the key to making these systems produce results is being able to get the vehicles ECU to lean out the engine sufficiently. I don't recall whether Stinker is using an O2 sensor extender or an EFIE (electronic fuel injection enhancer), which physically and electronically (respectively) alter the O2 sensor's signal to the ECU to cause it to lean out the air/fuel mix. Being able to manually adjust the signal electronically makes the most sense to me, as you could bump it safely above the point of detonation (monitoring EGT's would also seem to help, although users are reporting lower EGT's when adding HHO as it is).

All I need to do now is pick a test vehicle...:D
Yes its just a matter of time before these kits will be commercially available everywhere. Have you seen the Aquygen welding gas generator in the first post?
 
Something else that I have yet to see addressed is how to vary the flow of HHO based on vehicle demand. It seems that you would otherwise be limited to dialing it in to a sweet spot for the best cruising MPG, rather than benefiting from it in a significant way all the time. Most of the well designed cells respond pretty quickly to changes in voltage, but nowhere nearly fast enough to rise and fall with engine RPM. It presents some interesting challenges.;)
 
I have the PDF file saved. If someone needs a copy, i can hook them up. i paid $100 bucks for the eBook. Just not that good with the directions on it, so I haven't been able to use it. If someone could help me understand it better, I will give out the book.
 
I have a 07 chevy 2500 work van if anyone wants a ginny pig.
 

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