andrew heywood
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You are correct fine sir:rock: Most parts were in-fact shipped from the states and assembled in Mexico.andrew heywood said:
Black1 said:Yes, they are...
Jeep Grand Cherokee, Detroit Michigan (JNAP)
Jeep Liberty/ Dodge Nitro, Toledo Ohio (TNAP)
Dodge Dakota "All Models", Warren Michigan (WTAP)
Dodge Ram, Warren Michigan & used to be Fenton Missouri (WTAP/STLNAP) yes Mexico also.
Ford F150, Kentucky Truck
I know I included SUV's but there kinda trucks
srt 10 jimbo
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think the 2500's are still made in st.louis, my 2003 was
Its sad how much stuff is imported from other countries.
ARRESTmeRed04
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hopefully roy will chime in on this but didn't we used to have tariffs on goods made outside the US? It would seem to me that if we still had them that a lot of manufacturing jobs would still be here because the tariff would offset the money the company would save on labor/transportation.
Black1
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MikeNice said:Jeep Grand Cherokee, Detroit Michigan (JNAP)
Jeep Liberty/ Dodge Nitro, Toledo Ohio (TNAP)
Dodge Dakota "All Models", Warren Michigan (WTAP)
Dodge Ram, Warren Michigan & used to be Fenton Missouri (WTAP/STLNAP) yes Mexico also.
Ford F150, Kentucky Truck
I know I included SUV's but there kinda trucks
That's fine... My next vehicle is going to be (another) Corvette..... and I know EXACTLY where they are made.
http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/home.htm
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
(Thanks for the info, tho... I didn't know "some" of the Rams were still made here.... I'm guessing the chassis-cabs and diesels?
:dontknow: )
Black1
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ARRESTmeRed04 said:
Not only are our tariffs CHEAP to foreign countries (courtesy for Clinton and (both) Bush's.... ), many countries charge us HUGE import tariffs.
We still import goods, because the LABOR over in other countries is so cheap, it makes the prices cheaper than making the part(s) here. 
Tariffs are a double edged sword. If we place a tariff on an incoming product, the manufacturing nation does the same to some good that we ship to them...since the balance of trade is so high in favor of countries that import things to the U.S. we are at a huge disadvantage.
We are a consuming nation and that will probably not change. Our appetite is voracious, we will just have to get used to it. Now if we could become the sole provider of something of immense value to other nations we might be able to close the gap...but that does not seem to be in the offering in the near future.
Surprisingly one of the areas in which we still command respect is higher education. Our schools are ripe with opportunity and our classes are becoming overloaded with the best and brightest from all over the world. Much of the product of higher education stays here...rather than return to their homeland...it is still to be seen if that is an asset or a liability for the economic future of the U.S.
One thing for sure is that we have new economic realities to deal with and the ways of the past are no longer able to deal with the pressures and problems of the future. Sitting around and hurling economic and political epitaphs is just evidence of the frustration with our inability to accept the changes that will have to be made to adjust to a global economy in which we very well may just be an also ran...not the leader that we have been in the past. The pure weight of China and India in the market place may just not be possible to overcome.
Just look at the massive size of the countries...China has over a 1000 cities with over a million people...we only have a few...India has such a fast growing economy that they can dominate any industry they want to.
And when Africa gets its act together in 10 or 20 years...it is larger than the US, India, China, Australia, and the EU all together! Their natural resources make the rest of the world seem minuscule.
We will have to rule through technology or cutting edge innovation...we are just not going to be able to manufacture or farm our way back to the top. That is where education may well be our lever...if we control the access to knowledge, and are wise in who we allow to acquire it...we may be able to orchestrate a preferred position in the world pecking order...but it will require some new ways of looking at many things in our culture.
We are a consuming nation and that will probably not change. Our appetite is voracious, we will just have to get used to it. Now if we could become the sole provider of something of immense value to other nations we might be able to close the gap...but that does not seem to be in the offering in the near future.
Surprisingly one of the areas in which we still command respect is higher education. Our schools are ripe with opportunity and our classes are becoming overloaded with the best and brightest from all over the world. Much of the product of higher education stays here...rather than return to their homeland...it is still to be seen if that is an asset or a liability for the economic future of the U.S.
One thing for sure is that we have new economic realities to deal with and the ways of the past are no longer able to deal with the pressures and problems of the future. Sitting around and hurling economic and political epitaphs is just evidence of the frustration with our inability to accept the changes that will have to be made to adjust to a global economy in which we very well may just be an also ran...not the leader that we have been in the past. The pure weight of China and India in the market place may just not be possible to overcome.
Just look at the massive size of the countries...China has over a 1000 cities with over a million people...we only have a few...India has such a fast growing economy that they can dominate any industry they want to.
And when Africa gets its act together in 10 or 20 years...it is larger than the US, India, China, Australia, and the EU all together! Their natural resources make the rest of the world seem minuscule.
We will have to rule through technology or cutting edge innovation...we are just not going to be able to manufacture or farm our way back to the top. That is where education may well be our lever...if we control the access to knowledge, and are wise in who we allow to acquire it...we may be able to orchestrate a preferred position in the world pecking order...but it will require some new ways of looking at many things in our culture.
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andrew heywood
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That is a bazaar angle no doubt , just how would we regulate this , is of mystery to me , somewhere in the recessis of my mind I think this harbors validity , if the knowledge is confined to say a very elite group , or simply no accses to said knowledge.............HHMMM
I have no idea about implementation...but "intellectual property" in the broadest sense of the term, is a product...so it may lend itself to appropriate constraints and rationing...
We have the same thing with nuclear fission, and a few other technologies...
The world is changing and our future depends on how well we manage the change. Some embrace it, and others shudder at the thought...but change is never ending and those who oppose it sooner or later have to get on board or get left at the train station.
We have the same thing with nuclear fission, and a few other technologies...
The world is changing and our future depends on how well we manage the change. Some embrace it, and others shudder at the thought...but change is never ending and those who oppose it sooner or later have to get on board or get left at the train station.
andrew heywood
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A wonderful revelation , would indeed enjoy seeing the fruition...............:rock: :congrats: :rock: .....
Venom Power
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MikeNice said:
Oh no Mike, you're not getting away with that one. When making babies most parts are shipped from a man's scrotum and 'made' a mother's womb.
Let's expand on the baby making scenario. What if a baby is conceived in Japan? The mother spends up to the 36th week there before going to America. She arrives then soon afterwards gives birth. Does that make the baby American made? If it were vice versa, would that make the baby Japanese made? :dontknow: Just something to ponder....
ARRESTmeRed04
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Roy i agree our natural resources pale in comparison to africa's and our work force is MUCH less than that of india/china. But i don't think it'd be a good idea to be a consumer based nation, then we'd be at the mercy of the countries that were selling us the goods. I think farming is extremely important, food is something we can't live without, and something that has been used in the past to control other nations. i can't think of anything we import that we could not make here. we may not be the #1 manufacturing country in the world ever again but i think it'd be a good idea not to rely on any other country for the things we need.
I am not recommending going away from agriculture or manufacturing, just saying that is the way that it is going here.
If we bring the issue down to basics it is the fundamental "make or buy decision" that each of us does dozens of times a day. If you need a pencil, you could look for a piece of charcoal wrap some newspaper around it and make it work to some degree...or a paper clip...or a book...business does not exist to perpetuate our nation...or our economy, or our life style...business exists to provide benefit to the stock holders. Any arguments? It seems that only the government exists to determine economic models...and that certainly is contrary to the Federalist Papers...but who else?
If we bring the issue down to basics it is the fundamental "make or buy decision" that each of us does dozens of times a day. If you need a pencil, you could look for a piece of charcoal wrap some newspaper around it and make it work to some degree...or a paper clip...or a book...business does not exist to perpetuate our nation...or our economy, or our life style...business exists to provide benefit to the stock holders. Any arguments? It seems that only the government exists to determine economic models...and that certainly is contrary to the Federalist Papers...but who else?
belgiumbarry
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YESYESYES !!!!
we , europs , have alot of american stuff we want to sell..... :rock:
we , europs , have alot of american stuff we want to sell.....
:rock:
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