Gotta make a decision soon...

Sharpimage

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Hey, alright here's what it boils down too... i currently have $1,010.97 sitting
around and am dieing to do a mod... As i just found out that if i get SC later
then the VEC is cheaper by about $200? anyways, i know i need some
headers when i get the SC plus i need a new hood emblem and would like
a black grille... I've been looking at headers and have seen gibson as a
possible buy... anyone had any exp. with them? also, what's your take on
what i should do with the money?

Sharpi
 
'Go' before 'show'!

Headers - long tubes, 1 3/4 primaries.
Or put the money in the bank for the SC.
 
94rt10ohio said:
Get the headers. I believe in opening it up before boosting.

Got to agree.

And for gods sake, do not listen to Nowwhat about headers. Aliens have taken over his brain.;) :D
 
Drop Kit and CalTraks :dontknow:
 
Sharpimage said:
i currently have $1,010.97 sitting
around and am dieing to do a mod...

I have to say this made me LOL........:laugh:
 
HOT RAM said:
If I were doing headers,I would go for long tubes.Just my .02:D

He allready has the catless mids from X-Metal.. so he would not be able to use those with long tubes.. without some serious mods... the shorties will just bolt right up to the catless mids.
 
If you already have mids and catback then would vote for the VEC3. Its the most versatile mod you wil ever purchase and like you said, will pay off later when you go S/C.

I appreciate my VEC3 everytime I drive the truck and utilize its capabilities all the time.
 
Headers are a waste o' cash unless you are doing heads and a cam....S/C's run better w/o headers.....

only thing worse than headers are shorties....


for the $$$$$ your best mod is 4.88's.....
 
Nowwhat said:
Headers are a waste o' cash unless you are doing heads and a cam....S/C's run better w/o headers.....

You got proof? :dontknow: I would think that opening up the exhaust
would reduce the back pressure on the engine. less heat etc etc :confused:


Sharpi
 
Nowwhat said:
Headers are a waste o' cash unless you are doing heads and a cam....S/C's run better w/o headers.....

only thing worse than headers are shorties....


for the $$$$$ your best mod is 4.88's.....

i have the 4.88's still in the box... just informing me well to start the job. Had some extra questions to Unitrax , now waiting there reply mail.... :(
 
Alright, i've thought about it and since shorties give low torque but not much
hp in the higher rpms and long tubes do all that but cost more... I'm gonna
try and go with some longtubes... Anyone know where i can find a decient
set for under or around 1k............. i've checked x-metal and roes' websites
and they don't have anything under a grand... wtf seriously can someone tell
me why it costs so much for some bent pipe?

Sharpi
 
Annu Kumar said:
What Exactly is a Vec 3?

The VEC3 Viper Engine Calibrator allows precise tuning of the air to fuel ratio and ignition timing over the entire operating range of the engine. Simply inserting a pre-programmed Smart Card immediately changes the program settings for the current driving situation or octane of fuel as desired.

The unit contains its own fuel injector drivers and is wired in between the factory PCM and engine. It is especially useful for recalibration of both forced induction engines and those with extensive modifications, allowing the tuner to quickly get the engine running correctly. Stock engines can also benefit greatly from improving the ignition timing and fuel curves.

The VEC3 is similar to a stand-alone engine management system, but also has similarities to a piggyback system. We consider it as working “in series” with the factory PCM.

In a true stand-alone system, you must program for every operating condition the engine will experience, such as load, throttle position, RPM, engine temperature, air temperature, etc. These systems can be quite complex to tune. Most PCM’s also control radiator fan operation, A/C operation, emissions operation and diagnostic functions. Stand-alones are generally not compatible with OBD2 emissions testing in that they replace the factory PCM and will not link up with state run emissions equipment. These systems are best suited for racetrack use where engine tuners can fine-tune the program to the environment of the moment for optimal performance.

In a typical piggyback system, control over the engine is done by manipulating inputs to the stock PCM. Manifold air pressure and oxygen sensor voltages can be altered in order to make the PCM change its load calibration, thus altering fuel and ignition advance curves. Reducing MAP sensor voltage has the effect of reducing injector pulse width by making the PCM “think” the engine is under greater vacuum than actual. At the same time, ignition timing is advanced due to the PCM believing the engine is under a lower load. Conversely, increasing voltage has the opposite effect, increasing fuel and reducing timing advance. When tuning with systems of this type, you can find yourself in situations where you can have proper part throttle tuning, or proper full throttle tuning, but rarely both if the engine is heavily modified or has forced induction.

The VEC3 offers the best of both worlds. Stand alone system control, but with the simplicity of a piggyback system. The VEC3 controls fuel and timing, leaving the stock PCM to handle all other functions, such as idle speed, A/C control, emissions operation, etc.

Sharpi
 

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