THEWELSHM said:
... an expensive one, on a short timer
Hennesey a bad word but is this a deal???
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... an expensive one, on a short timer
You see that crap?!?! 24.5k for a paxton set up and a 4 week install
THEWELSHM said:
Please understand that I am not attempting to be rude.....
But, isn't the abundance of negative (bad) responses that you have received (thus far) sufficient to explain that we wouldn't own anything that JH has (so much as) touched or had in his garage?
His reputation around here is 99% pure shit. And we have lots and lots of experience represented here... more than enough to realize that the bad experiences were not the exception to the rule.....
We believe that JHs work, his results and his business acumen (all) suck the big one.......
PERIOD.
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Django said:Please understand that I am not attempting to be rude.....
But, isn't the abundance of negative (bad) responses that you have received (thus far) sufficient to explain that we wouldn't own anything that JH has (so much as) touched or had in his garage?
His reputation around here is 99% pure shit. And we have lots and lots of experience represented here... more than enough to realize that the bad experiences were not the exception to the rule.....
We believe that JHs work, his results and his business acumen (all) suck the big one.......
PERIOD.
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That why I value all members opinion, school of bad knocks results! ( and no you are not being rude Sir") sometimes in the type of buisness I am involved with ( off topic slightly) It is the team you deal with, not the product/ service etc! It would seem in this case across the board is a huge issue, I am merely enquireing to satisfy myself with regards to rumor versus fact. In this case I value all input as always from all members.
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thewelshm
THEWELSHM said:
I certainly appreciate your position......
The problem with JH is that he seems to be so prestigiously positioned in all of the top magazines and his PR and marketing work is so widely featured that it makes him virtually obiquitous (everywhere) in the hot rodding world... His name is almost synonymous with great times and top performance.... He markets himself very well..... Very well indeed....
But when you've seen the heartache of so many of your members... When you've read the horror stories about blown up motors and tens of thousands (I recall as many as $80,000) being virtually flushed down the bloody effing toilet and with nothing but lip service and bullshit being offered by JH in return.... Well, this is why some of us are responding with such individual vehemence........
I'd venture to guess that the experience of this forum is in no way unique.
I wish you only to find the truth in your search for facts regarding JH.....
He puts on a great face......... and his people give an impression of quality, trust and sincerity........ But, in my opinion and experience, JH does not deliver any of the above....
I think he's a shark.........
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GADodgetech
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Do you guys remeber that guy was suing JH over that gts?? Did he ever win?
Django said:
Advise appreciated as always:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
thewelshm
GADodgetech said:
Now given the responses to this thread, I would like to see an outcome of a suit:rock: :rock: :rock: , however one would imagine that any outstanding mechanical failures would be remedied under a sort of hold harmless deal in lieu of any sort of mediation????:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:
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thewelshm
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No it wasnt a mechanical problem, JH kept on tellin the guy that he was "finishing" the car and blah blah, Cometo find out the car was slowly being parted out.THEWELSHM said:
GADodgetech said:No it wasnt a mechanical problem, JH kept on tellin the guy that he was "finishing" the car and blah blah, Cometo find out the car was slowly being parted out.
"Holy Shit" I wonder how one would explain that ??? A good ole fashioned Ass whopping for starters, then apply grease nipples to the offenders knees
Wow that sucks!!!!!!
thewelshm
Go over to Viper Alley and do a search, or the NFFF, or well just google the guys name if you need more convincing..Theres too many interent nut swingers who have alot to say about JH. His business manager is a member here, but have not seen him post at all in a long time.He was going to try and turn things around for JH here..
GADodgetech
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Im a fan of the mans work, just not his business practices. Customer service is everything.Riff62 said:
Riff62 said:
Points taken please see attached!
According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million†in punitive damages.
Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.
“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,†said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.â€
Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:
On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.
William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.
Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.
Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.
Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new†valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.
Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.
Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.
“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,†said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.
Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.â€
Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.
“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,†Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.â€
Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.
“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,†he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?â€
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A man is nothing without his word.Riff62 said:
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The man needs a texas sized ass whoop!!!:rock: Any volunteers?THEWELSHM said:Points taken please see attached!
According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million†in punitive damages.
Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.
“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,†said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.â€
Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:
On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.
William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.
Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.
Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.
Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new†valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.
Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.
Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.
“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,†said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.
Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.â€
Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.
“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,†Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.â€
Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.
“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,†he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?â€
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GADodgetech said:
Fawk that shit..... Git a rope...........
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Django said:Fawk that shit..... Git a rope...........
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Personally I'm old school, how about The Iron Maiden and a Rack???:rock: :rock: :rock:
Great posts guys!!!!!
thewelshm
Greg Z
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I only read the first 2 pages of this thread, but will agree with everyone that JH is one of the worlds biggest con-artist. 3 yrs ago I bought a Hennessey 650R that was converted to a 950R and had 815RWHP NA. The thing was a beast but I bought it on a whim ( within an hour of stumbling onto it I was the new owner). I called John to see exactly what was done to the car ( figured he could just pull the file) but he would not tell me anything, he kept saying " Just bring it in and leave it with me and I will go though it and tell you everything". I said hell no. That gave me a very bad feeling so I went home and researched the name Hennessey on a couple of different Forums which led me to sell it 3 days later.
He had charged the first owner 35K to make it a 650R and then later another 35K to make it a 950R or whatever it was called. That didn't incluse the exhaust, brakes, harnesses and all else. I'm sureJH made 100K PLUS off that car. Point being, I was worried that if something happened to the motor while I owned it there was no way in hell I was gonna bring it to john and have him charge me 35K to repair and prolly only put in a stock motor that he stole from one of his other customers LOL
He had charged the first owner 35K to make it a 650R and then later another 35K to make it a 950R or whatever it was called. That didn't incluse the exhaust, brakes, harnesses and all else. I'm sureJH made 100K PLUS off that car. Point being, I was worried that if something happened to the motor while I owned it there was no way in hell I was gonna bring it to john and have him charge me 35K to repair and prolly only put in a stock motor that he stole from one of his other customers LOL
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Ok guys! "and I do value everyones opinion here" I think we all agree that JH has some questionable buisness practices!! The questions I have posed regarding Supercharging a standard SRT10 motor still havent really been addressed? We were referencing this truck
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0297986660&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=
This apparently has been modified with parts readily available to anyone on the open market correct?:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:
the fact that some blow up within 10000 miles???could happen to any stock motor with bolt on goodies right?? is there any member running a Supercharger on a stock block that is having fairly good success??
Im asking I think reasonable questions here, Think of it that if it were not a JH truck!!!
thewelshm
We were referencing this truckhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0297986660&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=
This apparently has been modified with parts readily available to anyone on the open market correct?:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:
the fact that some blow up within 10000 miles???could happen to any stock motor with bolt on goodies right?? is there any member running a Supercharger on a stock block that is having fairly good success??
Im asking I think reasonable questions here, Think of it that if it were not a JH truck!!!
thewelshm
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