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Pirateman, I went back and looked at the wreck photos and noticed the driver's side airbag hanging out of the steering wheel. I thought they failed? Oh hell I'm confused.:confused:
 
I don't know all the facts, but I did a search and found the pics of the truck. It appears the seatbelt was still buckled, but cut. It also appears that the airbag had deployed. This was a devestating impact. I can only hope Mrs. Woodruff can find peace.
 
04rcmoneypit said:
I don't know all the facts, but I did a search and found the pics of the truck. It appears the seatbelt was still buckled, but cut. It also appears that the airbag had deployed. This was a devestating impact. I can only hope Mrs. Woodruff can find peace.

Very true! The size of that concrete pole alone scares the hell out of me. Safety measures in place or not, living through an impact that hard is almost impossible. Especially with the A - post that distorted. Again, I hope she can find peace.
 
I'm as sorry as everyone else for the loss of a man's life. I've lost friends and family both to fatal car accidents. My wishes and thoughts are still with his family.

After reading back through that thread and catching this post:

first, let me straighten this out friend. Woody left the car wash running pretty strong according to the guys that worked there. We know woody was at least at 100mph. But there was no signs of him losing control, no brake marks, no trying to recover signs, just a gradual drift from the road. We suspect something happened to woody with his medical problems but dont know for sure. We are waiting on the autopsy report which may take 10 days.

If this is remotely accurate... and I'm not an automotive safety engineer... at 100 MPH (this is excessive speed on any highway in America, and public roads are certainly not maintained road surfaces like a track), I'd say the passenger belts and supplemental restraints installed in any automobile are pretty much not to blame for a fatality. That's kind of like suing McDonalds because you got burned on the coffee.

A steering failure is bad at any speed. Yet still, If he was actually doing 100 mph, how do you place blame on a steering issue on a public road?
 
the air bags deployed minutes after the accident when they were trying to get him out of the truck. the passenger air bag almost hit one of the guys helping. woodys autopsy revealed no heart attack or anything else. the seat belt was buckled but did not lock to hold him in place.
 
BriteCrawler said:
I'm as sorry as everyone else for the loss of a man's life. I've lost friends and family both to fatal car accidents. My wishes and thoughts are still with his family.

After reading back through that thread and catching this post:



If this is remotely accurate... and I'm not an automotive safety engineer... at 100 MPH (this is excessive speed on any highway in America, and public roads are certainly not maintained road surfaces like a track), I'd say the passenger belts and supplemental restraints installed in any automobile are pretty much not to blame for a fatality. That's kind of like suing McDonalds because you got burned on the coffee.

A steering failure is bad at any speed. Yet still, If he was actually doing 100 mph, how do you place blame on a steering issue on a public road?
its like this, when you pay 53000.00 for a vehicle you would expect it to function. You would not expect it to go in 7 times for steering problems. Especially a truck that is suppose to be the fastest production truck in the world.And you would expect the air bags to deploy at impact not 3 or 4 minutes later and the side air bags did not deploy at all.I dont pay 53000.00 for a cup of coffee at mcdonalds. Yes a 100 mph impact is devastating and nobody is to blame but woody for that but if his truck failed him who is to blame?
 
Wow...Been reading up on all this...:( Scares the shit out of me...Never
knew Woody but looked like a cool guy...Sorry...Intreseted in knowing
if putting on 20's would help or what...Has any member done this...
 
04 SRT 10 said:
Wow...Been reading up on all this...:( Scares the shit out of me...Never
knew Woody but looked like a cool guy...Sorry...Intreseted in knowing
if putting on 20's would help or what...Has any member done this...
thanks woody was a great guy. And yes he was in the wrong. But you have to place blame to both partys. If he had been running 70 on the interstate and his steering failed would it have made a difference? I think the 22 inch wheels are too large for the steering components. I was talking to a local tire dealer who puts on a lot of 22 24 and 26 in wheels and he said it wears heavy on the steering components.
 
BriteCrawler said:
I'm as sorry as everyone else for the loss of a man's life. I've lost friends and family both to fatal car accidents. My wishes and thoughts are still with his family.

After reading back through that thread and catching this post:



If this is remotely accurate... and I'm not an automotive safety engineer... at 100 MPH (this is excessive speed on any highway in America, and public roads are certainly not maintained road surfaces like a track), I'd say the passenger belts and supplemental restraints installed in any automobile are pretty much not to blame for a fatality. That's kind of like suing McDonalds because you got burned on the coffee.

A steering failure is bad at any speed. Yet still, If he was actually doing 100 mph, how do you place blame on a steering issue on a public road?


I say we will never know since they did not do their job. Although the way it looked there is a good chance he wouldn't of survived, we just will never know.

Whether or not he was going 100mph or not, these devices did not do their job and that is a big problem. Shouldn't airbags/seatbelts work at all speeds?
 
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amtrucker22 said:
I say we will never know since they did not do their job. Although the way it looked there is a good chance he wouldn't of survived, we just will never know.

Whether or not he was going 100mph or not, these devices did not do their job and that is a big problem. Shouldn't airbags/seatbelts work at 70 mph all speeds?
well said
 
What a horribly tragic story. RIP Woody...

I hope his family and friends can find some sort of relief in determining exactly what happened in the accident.
 
pirateman said:
the air bags deployed minutes after the accident when they were trying to get him out of the truck. the passenger air bag almost hit one of the guys helping. woodys autopsy revealed no heart attack or anything else. the seat belt was buckled but did not lock to hold him in place.


I have seen airbags activate during extrication. It is nasty! I have also seen them go off as late as being on the wrecker en route to the yard. I hate that these safety measures didn't function properly. Thanks for clearing up the airbag issue Pirateman.
 
I ran my vin for recalls.

VIN Number:XXXXXXXXXXXX
Vehicle Description: DODGE RAM SRT-10 1500 QUAD CAB PICKUP
Model Year: 2005

No Incomplete Recalls or Customer Satisfaction Notifications Exist

Get your recall info here: http://www.dodge.com/en/owners/
 
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Same for me, Scott. Thanks!

VIN Number:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX Vehicle Description:
DODGE RAM SRT-10 1500 QUAD CAB PICKUP Model Year:
2005

No Incomplete Recalls or Customer Satisfaction Notifications Exist
 
I ran mine, interesting it doesn't list it as a SRT-10?

VIN Number:
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX Vehicle Description:
DODGE RAM 1500 REG. CAB PICKUP Model Year:
2006

No Incomplete Recalls or Customer Satisfaction Notifications Exist
 
amtrucker22 said:
I say we will never know since they did not do their job. Although the way it looked there is a good chance he wouldn't of survived, we just will never know.

Whether or not he was going 100mph or not, these devices did not do their job and that is a big problem. Shouldn't airbags/seatbelts work at all speeds?

I say he broke the law, was recklessly speeding and got himself killed. Regardless of how anything functioned, at 100 mph you can't really expect to live. The physics involved with a crash at that speed are hardcore in a street environment, cause that concrete pole was sure as heck not built to give way.

It boils down to opinion in the matter. Don't get me wrong, as I'm on the side of "the trucks should function properly in a reasonable environment". Yet I'm also stuck to: He broke laws that exist for his safety, and died. We live in a day and age where anyone can sue someone for whatever they feel like.

If he knew there were steering issues with his truck, why was he speeding in the first place? His choices got him killed. Dodge didn't make him hold that accelerator to the floor.
 
pirateman said:
and the airbags didnt deploy?


No they didn't. I called Chrysler and they sent someone out to extract the data from the computer.

What I was told was that I hit so hard and so fast that it severed the lines so the sensors never saw that there was an impact.

I call bullsh*t but I just left it alone.
 

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