Knock Sensor Digital Readout Guage?

Not saying this as scripture, but i think detonation would be tough at low rpms even under load...Engine load....Seems to me it would take more rpms..:dontknow: :dontknow:
 
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Not saying this as scripture, but i think detonation would be tough at low rpms even under load...Engine load...

Especially how loud our engines are with the injectors and lifters.

Other platforms have been able to have the ECU flash the check engine light when a certain knock value is reached.
 
This taken from an EVO forum:

The ECU has logic that learns and constantly adjusts to the background noise of the engine (up to a point) and pulls timing for any amount of noise above that learned threshold. The further above the threshold, the more the adjustment will be made, such as pulling ignition timing, increasing fuel, etc.

It is a very complex process that involves many variables and inputs, one obviously being the knock sensor, but others include the RPM, the particular fuel/timing maps that are being used at that moment, etc. Also, the ECU will keep these adjustments in effect for a certain amount of time (revolutions) depending on conditions.

But, basically the stock ECU does a great job...it's just that we can't see it happening, and that's why we want devices like a Knock-Link. Because even though the ECU is doing many things to react to the knock, when you modify our cars, that may not be enough. So, we need to know exactly what our knock thresholds are to tune close to, but not beyond, them.

If you really wanted to build a 'knock meter', build something that will flash a light or something when timing is being pulled by the ECU. That will tell you that the ECU detected knock. But, in order to do that, you would need to know the timing tables of the stock ECU based on the airflow tables that you are currently on (depending on RPM, load, etc) and be able to know what the timing should be and what the actual timing is. Anytime there is a difference, that would be because of knock.

The best product by far that I know of that does this is DSMLink. I have had it for years in my Eclipse, and I am tempted to put one into my Evo. But, I sort of want to wait for a native Evo version. But, I may just do it anyway.
 
Especially how loud our engines are with the injectors and lifters.

Other platforms have been able to have the ECU flash the check engine light when a certain knock value is reached.

a knock light could be done on our trucks...
 
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Also taken from the EVO forum.

There is no piggyback that can log/monitor knock properly. The most important aspect of tuning and you need to know how many degrees of knock retard the stock ECU is applying and at what RPM range. All piggybacks can do is monitor knock sensor voltage, which is just the noise heard by the stock knock sensor. You need to correlate that background noise into what is and what isn't knock. At different RPMs, the same amount of voltage isn't the same amount of knock, and may not be knock at all. The stock ECU has logic that dynamically adjusts what is acceptable concerning background noise, and pulls timing based on how far above that acceptable range the voltages spike. It constantly does this to monitor and react to knock events.
 
Especially how loud our engines are with the injectors and lifters.

Other platforms have been able to have the ECU flash the check engine light when a certain knock value is reached.

Are our ECU's smart enough/have the capabilities of preventing engine damage due to "lugging" the engine (operating at unusually low RPM's while under load)? We are discussing this in another thread and you are one of the few people I know that might actually have an intelligent/informed answer.
 
Seems like a $100 solution to a $2 problem, good tune and good fuel 99.99% of us will never have a problem

^^This. Hence the reason I asked why the OP felt a knock gauge should be mandatory. A good maintained truck with a stock tune and good gas can take a beating and not worry about knock issues. Once you start getting into modifying your truck then it gets a little hairy.
 
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Are our ECU's smart enough/have the capabilities of preventing engine damage due to "lugging" the engine (operating at unusually low RPM's while under load)? We are discussing this in another thread and you are one of the few people I know that might actually have an intelligent/informed answer.

Not sure man. I would guess no considering it would be a small amount of knock if any.
 
My understanding and experience would lead me to be hesitant about applying information from an Evo forum to our system. Just because an Evo has a sofisticated way of analyzing knock, RPM, engine load, etc and adjusting for all of them doesn't means that the Dodge can. Before I invested in any hardware I would have an in depth talk with someone like Torrie or another Viper tuner that understands what the PCM and knock sensor do.
 

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