Alright I got with Stifflers performance that make the long traction bars for the Lightning guys. The price would be 495 and we'd need about 20-25 guys for them to do it. So I'm just wanting to find out how many would be interested in them.
Long Bar update!
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They have not been tested, would be for RC and QC. I'm really just trying to find out if 20-25 people would want them, if not I'll just end up building my own
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When the dead line to pay up
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Haven't got that far yet, like I said need 25 people before moving forward
How do the Stifflers attach to the axle and frame?
I maybe interested , I'm just not going to go into them blind .. I would need to know if they are going to be an improvement over Cal-tracs . Considering the price is more than cal-tracs being un-tested makes me shy away from them at the moment ...
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I posted it on a dodge forum to see if we can get more people
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Google long bars vs cal-tracs. Tons of info about them, the thing with cal-tracs is that they were designed to work within a set of NHRA rules for a certain class. Long bars have more leverage therefore transferring more weight to the rear wheels
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I so want this.....
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These things are gonna bind! There are different pivot points which will cause the pinion angle to change with every suspension movement. The geometry isn't right! Am i missing something?....
Glad to see someone run with this.
Frame mount:
Axle mount:
Thanks for the help, I didn't realize they were adjustable:rock:
Slitherbeast, what are you thinking is going to bind up? The princapal is already proven on Lightnings. Ni would think it'd help us even more seeing as how we have a longer wheelbase and more weight up front.
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There are pivot points front and rear on the bars were they bolt to the mounts and they wont bind. If they did they wouldnt be on 10, 9, 8 and 7 second L's. They work and work much better than caltracs on L's and I think it would be a safe assumption to say they would work better than caltracs on 10's.
Just out of curiosity whats the best 60' a caltrac equipped 10 has achieved?
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I feel confident that his 60' could be bettered with a set of quality longbars. I went from low 1.6's with caltracs to 1.4's with longbars. Granted it wasnt overnight and it took some figuring out but I was maxed out on the caltrac were the longbars gave me room to grow. Results may vary with 10's but this has been my personal experience.
Absolutely.
The whole idea with Caltracs and/or longbars, is to stabilize the diff from spring windup! the caltracs work great on the 10 . the wheels don't hop from spring windup once Caltracs are installed and properly adjusted . just from tire windup. our trucks are really heavy! so things will take stress until it gets moving!! If the longbars work great on lightnings then maybe their springs are softer so less noticeable conflicts . the caltrac has the bar the same length as the spring from center of axle to center of eyelet. there is very little conflict when the axle travels it's limits. The longbars will have to flex to maintain correct length during suspension travel. The"ladderbar " was all the rage back in the day until the 4-link was invented. The caltrac mimicks the 4-link . ....my 2 cents
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Cal-tracs limit wheel hop, long bars limit wheel hop and help transfer weight. The only reason people think cal-tracs are so great is because that's all we can buy as of right now. Don't get me wrong they work alright but not as well as a longer bar with more leverage can
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