Mopar headers parts

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I am going to be grabbing a set of headers and mid pipes for dirt cheap. My question is what else will I need for the install. He is just selling me headers and midpipes no clamps, bolts or gaskets. If someone could just let me know and where the best place to get them. thanks
 
mgwarrior350 said:
I am going to be grabbing a set of headers and mid pipes for dirt cheap. My question is what else will I need for the install. He is just selling me headers and midpipes no clamps, bolts or gaskets. If someone could just let me know and where the best place to get them. thanks


your going to need - header collector gaskets - 2.5 (2) / 2 mopar Extenders from JTS / 2 bungs welded in for the rear o2 sensors - and a good tune

Torrie at unleashed tuning , talk to Tony aka Stinker at JTS

also your going to need header gaskets - go with OEM gaskets from dodge, about 75 $ a side

you are going to need a set of crows foot wrenchs - there are a few bolts that are a PITA - turn by turn with a crows foot, and you will get it, dont worrie take your time

remember that the headers go in from the top of the engine bay - cant do it from under, remove the master booter and battery

do the drivers side 1st b/c it the hardest - pass side no sweat :)

GOOD luck
 
Having my Mopar Headers installed Today :D

List of Build epuipment that I got from Tony..

Set of Spark Plug Wire Boots (Gets Really Hot right at the Headers)
Heat Sock for Steering Collum (Forgot to get one Ordered Today Be In Tomorrow)
Set of 2 each Copper Collector Gaskets (I actually got an Extra Set for a total of 4)
Set of Mopar OEM Metal Exhaust Manafold Gaskets (1 for each side)
Set of 2 each O2 Extenders
2 boxes of "Stage 8" Stainless Manafold Bolts (1 Box for each Side)
6 each Stainless 7/16 X 1 1/2 Bolts for the Collector/Mid-Pipe Flange (I got 10)
Stainless Nuts, Flat Washers, and Lock Washers for the above Bolts
4 New Mopar O2 Sensors two front and two rear Left and Right Sides (could use the old ones but I went with New)
Stainless Bungs (you need to decide if you are going to only use the front two and sims for the rear or all 4) You may also wish to have an extra Bung put in for a future Wide Band (I went with a total of 5 bungs running all 4 sensors)
Stainless Bung Plug for the extra Bung/Future Wide Band
Does your State Require Cats (VA does so I went with the Magnaflow High Flows)
If High Flows are required you will need to Weld them in or Clamp (I got clamps and will have them welded later)
Zip Ties to make sure the O2 sensor wires don't get anywhere near the heat
If the Headers are NOT Coated then you will need Heat Wrap (Mine were Jet Coated but still got some just in case, doesn't cost much)

I also have the Mopar Header Install PDF which has their list of Build materials. I can email it to you if you PM me your email address.. :)

In the Imortal words of Ronnie... Hope This Helps :D
 
Da1Chief said:
Having my Mopar Headers installed Today :D

List of Build epuipment that I got from Tony..

Set of Spark Plug Wire Boots (Gets Really Hot right at the Headers)
Heat Sock for Steering Collum (Forgot to get one Ordered Today Be In Tomorrow)
Set of 2 each Copper Collector Gaskets (I actually got an Extra Set for a total of 4)
Set of Mopar OEM Metal Exhaust Manafold Gaskets (1 for each side)
Set of 2 each O2 Extenders
2 boxes of "Stage 8" Stainless Manafold Bolts (1 Box for each Side)
6 each Stainless 7/16 X 1 1/2 Bolts for the Collector/Mid-Pipe Flange (I got 10)
Stainless Nuts, Flat Washers, and Lock Washers for the above Bolts
4 New Mopar O2 Sensors two front and two rear Left and Right Sides (could use the old ones but I went with New)
Stainless Bungs (you need to decide if you are going to only use the front two and sims for the rear or all 4) You may also wish to have an extra Bung put in for a future Wide Band (I went with a total of 5 bungs running all 4 sensors)
Stainless Bung Plug for the extra Bung/Future Wide Band
Does your State Require Cats (VA does so I went with the Magnaflow High Flows)
If High Flows are required you will need to Weld them in or Clamp (I got clamps and will have them welded later)
Zip Ties to make sure the O2 sensor wires don't get anywhere near the heat
If the Headers are NOT Coated then you will need Heat Wrap (Mine were Jet Coated but still got some just in case, doesn't cost much)

I also have the Mopar Header Install PDF which has their list of Build materials. I can email it to you if you PM me your email address.. :)

In the Imortal words of Ronnie... Hope This Helps :D

Sandy, if you wrap those headers it will cook the coating off....unfortunately I learned this the hard expensive way.:D Also, concerning the Stage 8 hardware...1 box for the the headers, 1 box for the collectors.:rock:
 
alexspop said:
Sandy, if you wrap those headers it will cook the coating off....unfortunately I learned this the hard expensive way.:D Also, concerning the Stage 8 hardware...1 box for the the headers, 1 box for the collectors.:rock:


Donnie... Didn't get the extra wrap for the Headers. Got it just in case I needed to wrap some of the parts-n-pieces that are close to them... :)
We talked about that over dinner at the GTG last Fall. See I did pay attention :D

I may actually use the heat wrap around the Magnaflow High Flow Cats (they are not coated) to cut down on any heat that would transfer to the under side of the Cab...

I talked to the Viper Tech about using the Wrap around the steering Column but he didn't like the idea and didn't trust it Not to come loose later, so we orderd the Mopar Steering Column Heat Boot

As to the Stage 8 bolts... I thought it was one box per side.. Didn't look good enough I guess... OOOPS :) :)

Thanks again for everything you did to make this happen :)
 
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Da1Chief said:
Donnie... Didn't get the extra wrap for the Headers. Got it just in case I needed to wrap some of the parts-n-pieces that are close to them... :)
We talked about that over dinner at the GTG last Fall. See I did pay attention :D

I may actually use the heat wrap around the Magnaflow High Flow Cats (they are not coated) to cut down on any heat that would transfer to the under side of the Cab...

I talked to the Viper Tech about using the Wrap around the steering Column but he didn't like the idea and didn't trust it Not to come loose later, so we orderd the Mopar Steering Column Heat Boot

As to the Stage 8 bolts... I thought it was one box per side.. Didn't look good enough I guess... OOOPS :) :)

Thanks again for everything you did to make this happen :)

Cool...can't wait to hear it!:rock: Are you going to Mopar Madness in Richmond? I think it is on 12 Jun.
 
mgwarrior350 said:
I am going to be grabbing a set of headers and mid pipes for dirt cheap. My question is what else will I need for the install. He is just selling me headers and midpipes no clamps, bolts or gaskets. If someone could just let me know and where the best place to get them. thanks

Hey bud just put my mopars in a month ago, if you need a hand or just want to see a set installed let me know im close to you. It took me about 4 hrs but i was using a lift with every tool you could think of ( i have a addiction for snap on) For the bolts and collector gaskets try speedway its a mail order cheap and fast..
 
That will be right after PCB so I don't know yet but I think I just might be able to make it.... Will let you know.... :)
 
So im going to get the stage 8 bolts as well as the heat sleeves and I am having the headers coated. For the collector bolts they dont need to be collector specific right? I can just use a general stainless bolt that fits? Or am I better off using a grade 8 bolt?
 
Yea, you can use standard Stainless Bolts. I took one of my Mid Pipes into Lowes and wound up with 7/16" x 1 1/2" SS bolts, lock washers, flat washers and nuts... Didn't need the flat washers but had them if I did...

Also Lessons Learned from my install... Have the rear O2 Bungs welded so that they will be at a 45 degree angle, NOT Straight Up and Down, my passenger side was straight up and it was virtually touching the Heat Shield on the bottom of the truck, had to have it re-done at an angle so that it would not break it off under heavy Torque... :)

When welding the bungs in make sure you use a "Bung Plug" screwed into it to prevent any Welding Slag from jumping inside the bung and getting stuck on the threads.

You may also need to "Trim" the Inner Finder Well near the bottom, my headers got so close that they burnt both sides, trimed about 1 1/2" off the bottom and they now have plenty of clearance.
 
I ,personally , do not like stainless steel bolts especially on the exhaust! stainless to stainless bolts and nuts will gall up and freeze. Then you have to cut them off. If you use them, use a high quality anti-sieze paste on the threads.
 
First let me say Thank You to both Donnie and Tony. Their Help and
Advice made this as Easy and as Painless as Possible and without it
I am sure it would have taken longer and cost a lot more money.
Thanks Guys, Both of you are Tops... :)

BTW: Unless otherwise noted, Tony supplied all the parts, so if
you are planning on this project, give him a call...

Mopar Headers and Mid Pipes
List of Build Equipment and Lessons Learned

The Headers and Mids are made of 304 Stainless Steel so stay with
Stainless Steel Parts and Components. You really don't want
to mix Stainless and "Regular" Steel.

Set of Spark Plug Wire Heat Boots (Gets Really Hot right at the Headers)
New Wires cost $$$$ Protect Them.

Heat Sock/Blanket for Steering Colum (Forgot to get one had to order
in Overnight $$$) Steering Colum sits right in the Middle of the Headers
and will get HOT. Heat will transfer UP the Colum to the Wires,
You will want to protect it/them.

Set of 2 each Copper Collector Gaskets
(You will only need two Gaskets but I got an Extra Set Just In Case)

Set of Mopar OEM Metal Exhaust Manifold Gaskets (1 for each side)
Donnie supplied these when I purchased the Headers from Him.

Set of 2 each Mopar O2 Extenders (Get the Long Ones if Possible)

****Warning**** Check the length of the O2 Extenders before welding
the O2 Bungs in place. You don't want to weld them 1/2" too far down
the Mid Pipe and come up "Short".

1 each box of "Stage 8" Stainless Manifold Bolts with Lock Clips
(Stage 8 P/N = 8909, $79.39 (20 per box) 5/16-18x7/8" bolts 6pt DDH,
Double Hex Head). Donnie also supplied these with the Headers.

***Warning**** Make sure you use "Anti-Seize" on All Nuts
and Bolts to prevent problems if you ever need to remove them.

6 each Stainless 7/16" X 1 1/2" Bolts for the Collector/Mid-Pipe Flange
(I got 10) Stainless Nuts, Flat Washers, and Lock Washers for the above Bolts.
I had the Stage 8 Collector Bolts and Nuts but they looked a little small
so I got these from Lowes. They Worked Perfect.

***Warning*** The Passenger Side Collector Flange is Very Close to the
Transmission Pan, be careful that it does not Touch, Rub, or Vibrate against
the Pan as this could eventually cause a Hole to develop.

4 New Mopar O2 Sensors two front and two rear Left and Right Sides
(Could have used the old ones but I went with New). I also used the
Old Sensors to "Dry Fit" Placement and Spacing before welding
New Bungs in place, See Below.

Stainless Bungs for Mid Pipes
(JEGS P/N = 555-30743, $7.99 each)

You need to decide if you are going to only use the front two O2 Sensors
and O2 Simulators (Sims) for the rear or all 4 O2 Sensors. (I selected to run all 4)

I got my Headers from Donnie (AlexsPop). They were already Jet Hot Coated
Inside and Out (Thanks Again Donnie :) )

The Mopar Headers and Mids come with 4 O2 Sensor Bungs already installed.
All 4 of the Bungs are located right at the Collector. 1 each on the Headers and
1 each on the Mid Pipes.

Donnie had already thought ahead about a Wide Band Sensor and had and Extra
O2 Sensor Bung welded into the Driver's Side Mid Pipe located approx 3" from the
existing Bung. You may also wish to have an extra Bung put in for a future Wide Band.
You could also go really wild and have a Wide Band on each side.

****Warning**** Make sure you have all of the Bungs Welded in prior to having
the Headers and Mids Coated. Cutting, Grinding, and Welding after the coating
just makes for an Ugly Install.

****Warning**** When welding in the New Bungs, use a Bung Plug in the Bung
to prevent Welding "Slag" from getting inside the Bung and sticking to the Threads.
This can cause a real headache if you get your O2 Sensor stuck on "Slag" and
it breaks off inside the New Bung when trying to extract it.

***Warning***** When welding in the New Bungs, Make sure you have them put
in at a 45 degree angle, NOT Straight Up (Visually check this before approving the Weld.
They will hit on the Underside Heat Shield of the Truck (Especially on the
Passenger Side) and they will break off if the Exhaust Vibrates or
Truck Body Torques any.

Stainless Bung Plug for the extra Bung/Future Wide Band.
(JEGS P/N = 555-30748, $7.99 each)

Also if you go with High Flow Cats you will need to Plug Up the existing Bungs
on the Mid Pipes so the New Bungs can be placed Rear of the Catalytic Converters.
I wound up using 3 Bung Plugs.

*****Does your State Require Catalytic Converters? If High Flows are required
you will need to Weld or Clamp them in (I had mine Welded).
Virginia does, so I went with the Magnaflow High Flow PART# 59556.
Perfect Fit for the 2 1/2" Mopar Headers.***

**** If you go with Cats it will "Require" that you cut the Mid Pipes to "Splice them In".
You will also want to do this AFTER they have been Coated. To weld the Cats in
Before Coating would destroy the Cats during the coating process.****

Zip Ties to make sure the O2 sensor wires don't get anywhere near the heat

If the Headers are NOT Coated then you will need Heat Wrap. You basically
wrap them up like a Mummy from the Exhaust ports all the way to the Collector.
It is cheap so I got some to take care of things that are close to the Headers
(Wires, Cables, Hoses, etc....)

***** Warning***** If your Headers are Coated DO NOT HEAT WRAP THEM.
If you do it will Bake the Coating Off the Headers and you will have wasted all
the Time, Effort and Money it cost to get them Coated.

You may also want to wrap the Catalytic Converters to reduce any heat transfer
through the Floor of the Truck.

You will also want to "Trim" the Plastic Inside Fender Well just a little.
The Headers will either actually touch it or be so close that it will melt the Plastic.
Do a Dry Fit and Trim it ahead of time to prevent a "Stinky" Mess.

The above are the steps that I took in the Installation of my Mopar Headers and
Mid Pipes. After 250 miles they are working great, provide a Great Sound,
generate More Power, and the Best Part is there are NO Error Codes....

If you have questions about anything noted above please ask, I will
attempt to answer any and all questions or concerns you may have..

Sandy
 
Sandy, thanks for the write up, great info. What are the part numbers for the Mopar O2 extenders and which manufacturer/part number did you go with for the steering column insulation sock?
 
Got the Steering Colum insulation sock/blanket from my local Dealer (wound up being a small reflective blanket about 10-12" long and 6" wide. Simply wrapped it aound the colum and then used metal clamps to hold in place.

I ordered the New O2 Sensors from Tony/Stinker along with the other parts. Didn't check the part numbers simply because Tony would not have sent them if they had not been right... :)

Give him a call, I am sure he has the Part Numbers... :)
 
Great job on the informative write up, Sandy. What catback system do you have mated to the Mopar headers/mids?
 
Jigsaw89 said:
Great job on the informative write up, Sandy. What catback system do you have mated to the Mopar headers/mids?

I have the Mopar Cat-Back, Pure Mopar from engine to Tail Pipe... :)

As soon as the Weather is decent I will have Pics and Vid posted up for those who are interested in the sound... :)
 
Well finally got a good day for a photo Shoot so here are the pics and vids... :) Hope you Like them :) :) :)

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Video 1

Video 2

Video 3 from Inside the Cab
 

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