My Hemi Build #2

[ZCx]

Devil Dawg,

Have you seen the 440 super commando? Small block with Siamese bores 4.18 bore x 4.00 stroke. I am leaning towards that bore size in my build to help keep the costs within reason.

ain't that a hell of an engine package.:rock: :burnout: :rock: :burnout: :rock: :burnout:

& just as torque as its big brother:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

 

[OSO]

Did you ever think about a 500 wedge and good on pump gas. This is where I used to go before I got the Ten. When the motor in my durango goes Im goin with the 406 magnum they have. http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/blocks.html

Thought about i wanted to use the all of the electronics but was told that the late model engine is more efficient and to produce the power that i am now (392ci) it would be less streetabel. :dontknow:

I know i was in the 500hp range with the 392 with stock heads but using the 727 and gear vendors unit it only put 400 to the wheels. Never got to dyno the new heads and cam but was hoping the 392 would of gained 20-30hp. With the 426 looking to put down a solid 450N/A through the 727 but it could just be wishful thinking:dontknow: Motor is being built to handle a 300 shot but if i ever decide to spray it wont be over 150 ok maybe 200

 

[OSO]

Devil Dawg,

Have you seen the 440 super commando? Small block with Siamese bores 4.18 bore x 4.00 stroke. I am leaning towards that bore size in my build to help keep the costs within reason.

Haven't seen the it sold in a package deal but someone has mentioned basically the same thing. I 20 o 30 k miles on he rebuild i might go bigger if needed

Would be a great opportunity to put a 10 in that light truck, would be a monster. What do it weigh???

Truck weighs in 5400+lbs 5380-5360 if i pull the tools out of the bed. Truck weighed over 5400lbs before i started pulling weight off of the truck. Besides Stock v10 would not handle my foot, my driving or make more power

 

[DevilDawg3097]

Thought about i wanted to use the all of the electronics but was told that the late model engine is more efficient and to produce the power that i am now (392ci) it would be less streetabel. :dontknow:

I know i was in the 500hp range with the 392 with stock heads but using the 727 and gearvendors unit it only put 400 to the wheels. Never got to dyno the new heads and cam but was hoping the 392 would of gained 20-30hp. With the 426 looking to put down a solid 450N/A through the 727 but it could just be wishful thinking:dontknow: Motor is being built to handel a 300 shot but if i ever decide to spray it wont be over 150 ok maybey 200

try a different torque convertor also. It only gets less streetable when you bump the compression due to the fact you cant run pump gas. Also any old motor can be converted to be efi. Also the 392 is capable of alot more shit all mopar blocks can handle what you dish out when done right. Shit just buy that 540 supercharged you will put Dom to shame maybe:marchmellow:

 

[pokeytemplar]

ain't that a hell of an engine package.:rock: :burnout: :rock: :burnout: :rock: :burnout:

& just as torque as its big brother:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

It makes me sick. If that had been out a couple of years ago I would have never started this Iron 10 project. Back then all you had were the stroker 408's and they just didn't impress me for the money. So far I still think I can get mine built and installed for less money than the 440 commando or a built Viper motor. 4.18x4.00x10cyl.:burnout:

 

[FATJACK]

A buddy of mine owns an 05 4.7 truck and said it weighed only 3800 lbs. Apparently he does not know what he is talking about!! Very possible.

 

[pokeytemplar]

A buddy of mine owns an 05 4.7 truck and said it weighed only 3800 lbs. Apparently he does not know what he is talking about!! Very possible.

Must of quoted you the weight of the Dakota RC!

 

[OSO]

try a different torque convertor also. It only gets less streetable when you bump the compression due to the fact you cant run pump gas. Also any old motor can be converted to be efi. Also the 392 is capable of alot more shit all mopar blocks can handle what you dish out when done right. Shit just buy that 540 supercharged you will put Dom to shame maybe:marchmellow:

Going to just run 105 and already run a billet 3500 stall from Circle D. Agreed they can all be converted but i am using all stock electronics and sensors truck has to pass full emissions testing. Took some effort to get it to pass when i pulled the electronic transmission.

 

[VENOMOUS1 RACING]

The cam has 330 duration? Holy shit sure it's not 230? Although that seems a lil low? Damn it man I had a 550 up blazer with 454ci and a 292 duration and high .675 lift that made deaf kids cover their ears and you are going 330? Must have something to do with Hemi heads?

 

[OSO]

A buddy of mine owns an 05 4.7 truck and said it weighed only 3800 lbs. Apparently he does not know what he is talking about!! Very possible.

Maybe it was a Dakota? The lightest full size 3rd gen truck i know of weighs in at 4100lbs and it has been cut on and interior, ac, power steering and any thing not needed to go down the track has been removed.

 

[Yellow venom]

Well had a lean condition plus high rpms plus 29+timing. = BOOM/BANG POW.

So the new build will be a 426ci 12.5:1 comp, gas ported Cp pistons, Carillo super A rods, K1 crank, Crower cam 330/332 115lsa . New 6.1 block and i will rebuild the 6.1 big valve heads using Manley valves and springs.:slug:


The new heads and cam on the previous 392 with 11:1 compression and bad tune showed hella gain on top end, i am hoping the new cubes and bigger cam on the new build it will only get better.:marchmellow:

You are using some very good parts in your build,very simular to my build:rock: ,CP Pistons,K1 Rods(Carillo are very good rod too)stainless Manley valves,bigger push rods and I went with a custom cam for FI though,but also good for 20PSI of boost and 250 shot of juice,good luck on your build:rock:

 

[DevilDawg3097]

Going to just run 105 and already run a billet 3500 stall from Circle D. Agreed they can all be converted but i am using all stock electronics and sensors truck has to pass full emissions testing. Took some effort to get it to pass when i pulled the electronic transmission.

Thats is what I mean, the regular mopar blocks and stuff viper shit excluded, you can get the wiring harnesses and shit to keep everything factory and some of it is not all that expensive. Shit before the prices dropped big time I was gonna drop a 426 in my 03 qc with 8ft bed 5.7 475Hp 425tq The extra 2ft does wonders for traction. But I got lucky and got the 10 for cheap.

 

[OSO]

The cam has 330 duration? Holy shit sure it's not 230? Although that seems a lil low? Damn it man I had a 550 up blazer with 454ci and a 292 duration and high .675 lift that made deaf kids cover their ears and you are going 330? Must have something to do with Hemi heads?

Type 0 your correct. Hell the original cam was a 218/226 tuning is not good enough for he Hemi at this time to run a big cam like you can in a GM motor.

 

[OSO]

Thats is what I mean, the regular mopar blocks and stuff viper shit excluded, you can get the wiring harnesses and shit to keep everything factory and some of it is not all that expensive. Shit before the prices dropped big time I was gonna drop a 426 in my 03 qc with 8ft bed 5.7 475Hp 425tq The extra 2ft does wonders for traction. But I got lucky and got the 10 for cheap.

I haven't seen a conversion setup for the crank,cam sensors etc.. to make an old school motor to work in a late model truck / Work as the stock motor would work using the oem pcm.

 

[VENOMOUS1 RACING]

That'll be a beast right there! I really wasn't doubting you but I've spent countless hours as you prolly have researching and learning the brain stick of all motors. I thought " shit I got some learning to do about hemi heads. Need a Viper hemi head for myself. Good luck mane!

 

[DevilDawg3097]

There out there It has been a couple of years since I have talked with my buddy. what year is the block you have? I know for a fact if you buy a newer block they can make whatever sensors you want to work, again it comes down to cost.:argh:

 

[OSO]

There out there It has been a couple of years since I have talked with my buddy. what year is the block you have? I know for a fact if you buy a newer block they can make whatever sensors you want to work, again it comes down to cost.:argh:

Im running the current 6.1 model production block from Mopar.

 

[bigike]

James i thought you were goining to raise the roof so to speak. And leave room for a supercharger or n2o????

 

[DevilDawg3097]

Im running the current 6.1 model production block from Mopar.

You have all kinds of potential with that block.Dude like bigike said lower your copression and slap a supercharger on that bitch. There cheaper then anything for the 10. Plus youll be forged I know what you want to accomplish but realistically N/A on these heavy bitches your not gonna get the times without going F/I.Unless you go alcohol or methonal but then there goes your steet legalness. But that is just a thought or even turbo you have all kinds of roads to choose. But keep an open mind on the compression, that way you will have more choices if you are not happy with N/A. Just a Thought.

 

[OSO]

You have all kinds of potential with that block.Dude like bigike said lower your copression and slap a supercharger on that bitch. There cheaper then anything for the 10. Plus youll be forged I know what you want to accomplish but realistically N/A on these heavy bitches your not gonna get the times without going F/I.Unless you go alcohol or methonal but then there goes your steet legalness. But that is just a thought or even turbo you have all kinds of roads to choose. But keep an open mind on the compression, that way you will have more choices if you are not happy with N/A. Just a Thought.

Think you will find that prices are about even for such products. The sms S/c was in the 8k range S/c for the stock 5.7 and 6.1 are in the 7 range. Plus it would have to all be custom brackets, air intake ect... for the truck as of now there is nothing off the shelf for my application. Decided against F/i becuse spending another 7-10K to only get into the 11s just not worth it. Besides doing it N/a will be funner to brag about but if i need more i can always put the 200 shot on.