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Nowwhat said:
there is some debate as to the effectiveness of drilling your rotors....some say it will help others say it will cause cracking...

What isn't up for debate are the looks.....man those look bad ass....



They should have come drilled from brembo....if their H2 brake kits are drilled and can handle the heat generated by a 6000lb H2 they can handle our trucks...

I would be very concerned drilling stock rotors. I happen to be on the conservative side, but that's me.
 
Silverback said:
I would be very concerned drilling stock rotors. I happen to be on the conservative side, but that's me.


people on the conservative side don't buy oversized performance tires and wheels for their wife's car or buy a yellow 500 hp truck for that matter....:D
 
Nowwhat said:
people on the conservative side don't buy oversized performance tires and wheels for their wife's car or buy a yellow 500 hp truck for that matter....:D

The FX is already a performance SUV so to speak and the stock 20 inch wheels are not really run of the mill. Regarding the 500HP truck. I have had both quicker and faster vehicles in my life. They were however not stock, but they were safe and the components on them where not altered from factory specs, if safety was a concern.

Okay, I will now be serious. For over 95% of us, we will never really be subjecting our trucks to braking loads that cross drilled or slotted rotors would be needed. Most are doing this for the visual factor. Nothing wrong with that provided the rotors are designed with that in mind. If the stock rotors were not designed with that intent, you could have a massive failure of the rotor, which will lead to at least a 50% loss of braking capability.

Damn you Mike. You made me turn into an old fuddy duddy again.:mad: ;) :p :D
 
Silverback said:
The FX is already a performance SUV so to speak and the stock 20 inch wheels are not really run of the mill. Regarding the 500HP truck. I have had both quicker and faster vehicles in my life. They were however not stock, but they were safe and the components on them where not altered from factory specs, if safety was a concern.

Okay, I will now be serious. For over 95% of us, we will never really be subjecting our trucks to braking loads that cross drilled or slotted rotors would be needed. Most are doing this for the visual factor. Nothing wrong with that provided the rotors are designed with that in mind. If the stock rotors were not designed with that intent, you could have a massive failure of the rotor, which will lead to at least a 50% loss of braking capability.

Damn you Mike. You made me turn into an old fuddy duddy again.:mad: ;) :p :D


quick go drink 4 beers and post some nudes.....
 
That is a great layout job on the rotors. I did it once and my results did not look that good. I didn't have a drill press and used a hand drill. The chamfering was not uniform.

I have had stock rotors, crossdrilled (professionally) on my 98 Expedition and had no problem with them once I got rid of the Raybestos Ceramic Pasds.


I am not very hard on brakes so I am not a geed test of what happens under extreme usage.

Raybestos Ceramic Pads are the worst thing that ever happened to brakes.
 
Thanks for all the input good and bad, I not only drilled them for the visual but to keep brake dust to a minimum. I am not as hard on brakes as I was twenty years ago. If I see a traffic light coming up I start easing off the gas instead of flying up there and slamming on brakes.Every other oil change I pull my wheels off and clean the insides while its up on the lift. I will keep an eye on the rotors and let you guys know if they crack.
 
mopower1958 said:
Thanks for all the input good and bad, I not only drilled them for the visual but to keep brake dust to a minimum. I am not as hard on brakes as I was twenty years ago. If I see a traffic light coming up I start easing off the gas instead of flying up there and slamming on brakes.Every other oil change I pull my wheels off and clean the insides while its up on the lift. I will keep an eye on the rotors and let you guys know if they crack.

Hope you did not take my input as bad. They look bitchin, and you did an excellent job. :rock:
 
mopower1958 said:
Toyo Proxes 305/40 front, 325/40 rear. Holes help to reduce heat,lets dust and gasses escape through vents in rotors.
will the 325s' mount on the stock 10' wide wheel?:dontknow: or are you going wider.
 
Silverback said:
Hope you did not take my input as bad. They look bitchin, and you did an excellent job. :rock:
No, believe me I thought about it long and hard,but we ordered a disc brake setup for the Duster and they look like stock rotors that were cross drilled so that made up my mind for me. It took about 5 hours to mark them and drill them,just the two fronts,after I finished I weighed the shavings and it was 4 pounds!
 
Silverback said:
Everytime you step on the brakes heat is generated. The brake pads also wear a very small amount. Some of that wear is disappates as dust. Some is also burnt and generates gas. Needless to say, the harder you get on the brakes, the hotter the pads get and the more gas is generated.

How do the holes help? Since we have vented (not solid rotors) the gas passes through the holes and escapes out the vents. Even if we had solid rotors, gas, unlike a liquid will compress. That is why slotted rotors work also. The gas is trapped in the slots, compresses and allows better contact between the rotor and pad.

Make sense?


Awsome explination Silverback. Drilling rotors is the number one way to cut down on heat and to stop brake fade. Look at every race team on this planet from F1 to lemans everyone uses the drilled format. The rotors that I sell are a direct replica off of the Viper race team rotors and they have never had any issues.

Since we have been doing the crossdrilling we have only had one customer ever crack a rotor. This guys goes to every track day they have and beats his viper on the road coarse every weekend. Even with all of the abuse he cracked one rotor. Why did the rotor crack? Very simple he beat the hell out of it and there was more than likely an imperfection right when the rotor was made. If it was the drilling he would have all of the rotors go bad. Either way we made him another rotor and it has been all good ever since.

Front

Rear


$250.00 + shipping

All rotors are CNC machined to perfect tollerence to avoid any issues with quality.

We recommend you go with EBC green stuff or PF brake pads when you drill the rotors.

Venom motorsports is so confident with this design we have applied for a pattern pending for these rotors.

Steve Austin
 
SANCHOBA said:
will the 325s' mount on the stock 10' wide wheel?:dontknow: or are you going wider.
My WHEEL MAN as Rokt would say, is widening my fronts to 10.5 and my rears to 11.5. They are aftermarket wheels not the stock ones.They are Eagle Alloys and were only 9.5 wide,I am trying to get the tread to layout flat on the pavement!
 
mopower1958 said:
After drilling 244 1/4" holes and 488 3/8" chamfers they are done. Pics of front crossdrilled rotor and new pads. New shoes for the widened wheels. Still waiting on the wheel man :dontknow:


Nice job they look really good. I like that new rubber as well.

Steve Austin:burnout:
 
mopower1958 said:
Thanks Steve,is that 250 per set of 4? If it is I suggest anyone who wants them done let Steve do them as it is a LOT of drilling!


Yes it is $250.00 for all 4 rotors drilled. I would never recommend anyone trying this unless they really know what they are doing. I am 1000% sure mopower1958 will back me on that one. :)
 
Steve Austin said:
Yes it is $250.00 for all 4 rotors drilled. I would never recommend anyone trying this unless they really know what they are doing. I am 1000% sure mopower1958 will back me on that one. :)
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! I have been turning wrenches 29 years for a living and I measured and remeasured before I drilled them.
 
mopower1958 said:
It took about 5 hours to mark them and drill them,just the two fronts,after I finished I weighed the shavings and it was 4 pounds!


Dude you have tons of patience!!!! I dont, I will have to buy mine from Steve A. Great job, very cool looking!:star:


patrick
 

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