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http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_accel.html
What is a Cosmological Constant?
Einstein first proposed the cosmological constant (not to be confused with the Hubble Constant) usually symbolized by the greek letter "lambda" (Λ), as a mathematical fix to the theory of general relativity. In its simplest form, general relativity predicted that the universe must either expand or contract. Einstein thought the universe was static, so he added this new term to stop the expansion. Friedmann, a Russian mathematician, realized that this was an unstable fix, like balancing a pencil on its point, and proposed an expanding universe model, now called the Big Bang theory. When Hubble's study of nearby galaxies showed that the universe was in fact expanding, Einstein regretted modifying his elegant theory and viewed the cosmological constant term as his "greatest mistake".
Many cosmologists advocate reviving the cosmological constant term on theoretical grounds. Modern field theory associates this term with the energy density of the vacuum. For this energy density to be comparable to other forms of matter in the universe, it would require new physics: the addition of a cosmological constant term has profound implications for particle physics and our understanding of the fundamental forces of nature.
The main attraction of the cosmological constant term is that it significantly improves the agreement between theory and observation. The most spectacular example of this is the recent effort to measure how much the expansion of the universe has changed in the last few billion years. Generically, the gravitational pull exerted by the matter in the universe slows the expansion imparted by the Big Bang. Very recently it has become practical for astronomers to observe very bright rare stars called supernova in an effort to measure how much the universal expansion has slowed over the last few billion years. Surprisingly, the results of these observations indicate that the universal expansion is speeding up, or accelerating! While these results should be considered preliminary, they raise the possibility that the universe contains a bizarre form of matter or energy that is, in effect, gravitationally repulsive. The cosmological constant is an example of this type of energy. Much work remains to elucidate this mystery!
There are a number of other observations that are suggestive of the need for a cosmological constant. For example, if the cosmological constant today comprises most of the energy density of the universe, then the extrapolated age of the universe is much larger than it would be without such a term, which helps avoid the dilemma that the extrapolated age of the universe is younger than some of the oldest stars we observe! A cosmological constant term added to the standard model Big Bang theory leads to a model that appears to be consistent with the observed large-scale distribution of galaxies and clusters, with WMAP's measurements of cosmic microwave background fluctuations, and with the observed properties of X-ray clusters.
Even though Einstein thought he may have been wrong, today they are beginning to believe that as on other occasions he was not mistaken.
It would be quite naive to think that even the worlds leading physicist could explain the entire Universe in one lifetime. Time will tell but I for one am sticking with Einstein!
What is a Cosmological Constant?
Einstein first proposed the cosmological constant (not to be confused with the Hubble Constant) usually symbolized by the greek letter "lambda" (Λ), as a mathematical fix to the theory of general relativity. In its simplest form, general relativity predicted that the universe must either expand or contract. Einstein thought the universe was static, so he added this new term to stop the expansion. Friedmann, a Russian mathematician, realized that this was an unstable fix, like balancing a pencil on its point, and proposed an expanding universe model, now called the Big Bang theory. When Hubble's study of nearby galaxies showed that the universe was in fact expanding, Einstein regretted modifying his elegant theory and viewed the cosmological constant term as his "greatest mistake".
Many cosmologists advocate reviving the cosmological constant term on theoretical grounds. Modern field theory associates this term with the energy density of the vacuum. For this energy density to be comparable to other forms of matter in the universe, it would require new physics: the addition of a cosmological constant term has profound implications for particle physics and our understanding of the fundamental forces of nature.
The main attraction of the cosmological constant term is that it significantly improves the agreement between theory and observation. The most spectacular example of this is the recent effort to measure how much the expansion of the universe has changed in the last few billion years. Generically, the gravitational pull exerted by the matter in the universe slows the expansion imparted by the Big Bang. Very recently it has become practical for astronomers to observe very bright rare stars called supernova in an effort to measure how much the universal expansion has slowed over the last few billion years. Surprisingly, the results of these observations indicate that the universal expansion is speeding up, or accelerating! While these results should be considered preliminary, they raise the possibility that the universe contains a bizarre form of matter or energy that is, in effect, gravitationally repulsive. The cosmological constant is an example of this type of energy. Much work remains to elucidate this mystery!
There are a number of other observations that are suggestive of the need for a cosmological constant. For example, if the cosmological constant today comprises most of the energy density of the universe, then the extrapolated age of the universe is much larger than it would be without such a term, which helps avoid the dilemma that the extrapolated age of the universe is younger than some of the oldest stars we observe! A cosmological constant term added to the standard model Big Bang theory leads to a model that appears to be consistent with the observed large-scale distribution of galaxies and clusters, with WMAP's measurements of cosmic microwave background fluctuations, and with the observed properties of X-ray clusters.
Even though Einstein thought he may have been wrong, today they are beginning to believe that as on other occasions he was not mistaken.
It would be quite naive to think that even the worlds leading physicist could explain the entire Universe in one lifetime. Time will tell but I for one am sticking with Einstein!
Excellent point Bob.
Science and religion can walk hand in hand...maybe not all aspects, and maybe not with our knowledge right now...but it is a quest and a process...more and more scientists are amazed at interrelationships and how consist they seem to.
We humans, and our desires are the problem.
Science and religion can walk hand in hand...maybe not all aspects, and maybe not with our knowledge right now...but it is a quest and a process...more and more scientists are amazed at interrelationships and how consist they seem to.
We humans, and our desires are the problem.
TheSickness said:I am a student of History as I have shown many times...I don't write about it just to write. I am not dumb enough to post erroneous info just to be lambasted by you and Roy. I know my Shit, you know I know my Shit....Seriously snorkel WTF....Prove me wrong thenGod knows the torture inflicted when I posted a Fkn milk price you thought were outlandish
This post is reactionary, inane and nonsequitur.
All I said was "stay off the History channel" because I know that info you mentioned was broadcast the other night.
Then Mikey goes off like a nuke......wtf..:dontknow: Get a grip, bro....
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Who is Mikey?
Prof said:
The answer can vary from time to time.
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Prof said:
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They still cant answer the simplest of questions. Which came first the chicken or the egg, and might I add where the f&*ck is the rooster:egg:
DevilDawg3097 said:They still cant answer the simplest of questions. Which came first the chicken or the egg, and might I add where the f&*ck is the rooster:egg:
Your not serious .....Are You??
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DevilDawg3097 said:They still cant answer the simplest of questions. Which came first the chicken or the egg, and might I add where the f&*ck is the rooster:egg:
The rooster and the hen on the fifth day
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day
Well I knew that Im talking about science. I consider myself a man of faith.includemeout said:The rooster and the hen on the fifth day
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day
and for Mickey, mikey or the man with many names heres a website I believe you may like.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/cac.htm
John Adams, who became the nation's second president once, wrote:
"Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God...What a Utopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
"Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God...What a Utopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
DevilDawg3097 said:
Well, I'd agree if they happened to be focusing exclusively on the New Testament.....
Some of that stuff in the OT can be awfully bloodthirsty, merciless and Draconian........
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Thats a good question but I am afraid the answer will have to wait. unless you see DEAD PEOPLEDjango said:
DevilDawg3097 said:Thats a good question but I am afraid the answer will have to wait. unless you see DEAD PEOPLE
In any case, it is a only a hypothesis.........
Regarding dead people....: I don't see them... I read them....
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Nice thought, but haven't we seen what happens when nations use a holy book as law?DevilDawg3097 said:
Related to the egg & chicken....The Bible says that God marked Cain after he killed Able. The mark was to keep others from harming Cain....If Adam, Eve, Cain & Able were the begining of mankind then who were these other people?
Also Adam named all the animals of the earth....what about all the animals discovered after Adam? How could he had named them?
Answer these without rationalizing....:egg:
Also Adam named all the animals of the earth....what about all the animals discovered after Adam? How could he had named them?
Answer these without rationalizing....:egg:
OCBob said:
Religion, law, and politics is a very dicey mixture.
Once people start thinking that politics and or law are ordained tolerance and reason seem to be lost.
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TNVIPER said:
The great question. You will find the answer (6th Day) here :
Chapter 1 Genesis 1
24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Adam was created sometime after the 7th Day ( some call it the 8th day, but it is not stated)
Give 'em Hell, Jerry.....
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