Religion VS Science

includemeout said:
No shit sherlock LOL ROTFLMAO, That was my point, sorry I was not clear enough for you :D :D :D Sorry about my transgrestion:D
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And my point you said ribs are transalated to curves in Greek....The quotes were from Hebrew transulations...........so according to your answer I will transalate as:

21 And the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his curves, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.
22 And the curve, which the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, 1 because she was taken out of Man. 2


So I will agree with you that women are generally curver than men...:dontknow: :) LOL
 
TNVIPER said:
And my point you said ribs are transalated to curves in Greek....The quotes were from Hebrew transulations...........so according to your answer I will transalate as:

21 And the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his curves, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.
22 And the curve, which the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, 1 because she was taken out of Man. 2


So I will agree with you that women are generally curver than men...:dontknow: :) LOL
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The Hebrew for rib is tsela. It occurs 39 times in the Hebrew Bible.(צֵלָע)

31. kaphaph kaw-faf' a primitive root; to curve:--bow down (self).72


6760 tsala` tsaw-lah' a primitive root: probably to curve; used only as denominative from 6763, to limp (as if one-sided):--halt.

1354 gab gab from an unused root meaning to hollow or curve; the back (as rounded (Compare 1460 and 1479); by analogy, the top or rim, a boss, a vault, arch of eye, bulwarks, etc.:--back, body, boss, eminent (higher) place, (eye)brows, nave, ring.

In the Greek ( rib)
4125. pleura plyoo-rah' of uncertain affinity; a rib, i.e. (by extension) side:--side.
2949. kuma koo'-mah from kuo (to swell (with young), i.e. bend, curve); a billow (as bursting or toppling):--wave.

These are base word meanings, can mean ribbon to body part, curve or other, however if used in a sentence there are many meanings that is why a clear understanding of these languages is necessary

( and I am still working on it):D :D :D :D
 
includemeout said:
The Hebrew for rib is tsela. It occurs 39 times in the Hebrew Bible.(צֵלָע)

31. kaphaph kaw-faf' a primitive root; to curve:--bow down (self).72


6760 tsala` tsaw-lah' a primitive root: probably to curve; used only as denominative from 6763, to limp (as if one-sided):--halt.

1354 gab gab from an unused root meaning to hollow or curve; the back (as rounded (Compare 1460 and 1479); by analogy, the top or rim, a boss, a vault, arch of eye, bulwarks, etc.:--back, body, boss, eminent (higher) place, (eye)brows, nave, ring.

In the Greek ( rib)
4125. pleura plyoo-rah' of uncertain affinity; a rib, i.e. (by extension) side:--side.
2949. kuma koo'-mah from kuo (to swell (with young), i.e. bend, curve); a billow (as bursting or toppling):--wave.

These are base word meanings, can mean ribbon to body part, curve or other, however if used in a sentence there are many meanings that is why a clear understanding of these languages is necessary

( and I am still working on it):D :D :D :D
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Don't fk with Rochester... He knows shit....

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In most court there is the option to swear "or affirm" with or without the use of a reference to God.

There have been very few people capable of reading in ancient times, most people got the teachings of the bible via oral interpretation of various types of "clergy" and therein lies much of the problem.

Going way back to one of my original posts asking "Who's God?" because the God referred to was often a creation of the person presenting the concepts...and the same goes on today...human interpretations stuffed with ulterior motives.
 
Prof said:
In most court there is the option to swear "or affirm" with or without the use of a reference to God.
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I was going to comment on that this morning. My wife and I were discussing this thread last night and I mentioned the Atheist part. She reminded me of the Affirmation instead of the swearing to God. :rock:
 
TNVIPER said:
...And chapter 2 contradicts the above...

4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God made the earth and the heavens,
5 and every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 1 Cor. 15.45
8 And the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Chapter 1 says he already made man & woman........but as chapter 2 progresses woman is again made..

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.
21 And the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.
22 And the rib, which the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, 1 because she was taken out of Man. 2
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look into lilith, she was created before eve. she is also explained in the telmud kinda of a bibliography of the old testament written by rabbis to explain questions such as yours. Also this is where the gnostic movement comes in.
 
I would have to say when I originally saw this thread I was under impressed with the topic, and to tell you the truth with all the posts I have read I have confirmed that this thread is shaking your head disappointing....

Was the intent of this thread to state that science has a disdain for all faiths?? Or do people of faith completely ignore all facts that science is able to uncover?? I for one say no... Quoting Einstein is always a good thing, but he had his views on non-general relativity that are just as credible as any store clerk...

helms...
 
While I do think the bible is full of flaws, and things that I just plain think were fabrications from people with ulterior motives...it is certainly a great work. You don't have to believe every detail, some of it is meant to be literal some is figurative.

I am not a Christian but I doubt that many would disagree that it has many lessons well worth considering.

Not everything needs to be flawless to be worthwhile.
 
I am a christian, I believe with all my faith, not because of others but because I made the journey for myself. One thing I do know is faith was givin to us By our Creator. religion was created by man to try and understand Faith.
But just Like everything if it falls into the wrong hands people use it to take control over others. If you cut out all the man made hysteria and added words of the Lord by mankind. Yeshua's basic message is there is more to our lives than just this world, and what you do while your here will determine on what happens after this life.Just as science tells us there are more dimensions to reality so did My Lord.JMO
 
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4th of 5th dimension?
 
didnt enstien have that show on game channel "win ensteins money"???
 
I think people are trying to hold Einstein up as a scientist that had all the answers for religion and science which is seriously wrong. Einstein had views of what "god" is and let's please let him have his views.... He was just a person that was brilliant in what he did for science. A god is something that should be very personal to us all.

Those that want god to be a god that judges us for the things we do in this life should be able to do that. Those people that view god as an intelligence that set our universe in motion and gave it laws should be able to have that view too.

God is something very personal, and those that find "god" in any form should considered themselves blessed. Read the bible if you want, read string theory and enjoy the mathematical theory that "god" put in motion. It's all the same.

-jeff
 
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