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HOT RAM
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Y'all are just too funny ! 
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Good reading this morning.I needed some humor today.Thanks ! :rock:
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Good reading this morning.I needed some humor today.Thanks ! :rock:
Oh I agree with you, but to those who havent studied but try to teach or explain it that dont have a clue, you get moneky to man. Id darwins theory was taught correctly religous and scientific zealouts would see the both in a way cohere together. Just my opinOCBob said:
Darwin's Theory of Evolution - The Premise
Darwin's Theory of Evolution is the widely held notion that all life is related and has descended from a common ancestor: the birds and the bananas, the fishes and the flowers -- all related. Darwin's general theory presumes the development of life from non-life and stresses a purely naturalistic (undirected) "descent with modification". That is, complex creatures evolve from more simplistic ancestors naturally over time. In a nutshell, as random genetic mutations occur within an organism's genetic code, the beneficial mutations are preserved because they aid survival -- a process known as "natural selection." These beneficial mutations are passed on to the next generation. Over time, beneficial mutations accumulate and the result is an entirely different organism (not just a variation of the original, but an entirely different creature).
Darwin's Theory of Evolution - Natural Selection
While Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a relatively young archetype, the evolutionary worldview itself is as old as antiquity. Ancient Greek philosophers such as Anaximander postulated the development of life from non-life and the evolutionary descent of man from animal. Charles Darwin simply brought something new to the old philosophy -- a plausible mechanism called "natural selection." Natural selection acts to preserve and accumulate minor advantageous genetic mutations. Suppose a member of a species developed a functional advantage (it grew wings and learned to fly). Its offspring would inherit that advantage and pass it on to their offspring. The inferior (disadvantaged) members of the same species would gradually die out, leaving only the superior (advantaged) members of the species. Natural selection is the preservation of a functional advantage that enables a species to compete better in the wild. Natural selection is the naturalistic equivalent to domestic breeding. Over the centuries, human breeders have produced dramatic changes in domestic animal populations by selecting individuals to breed. Breeders eliminate undesirable traits gradually over time. Similarly, natural selection eliminates inferior species gradually over time.
Darwin's Theory of Evolution - Slowly But Surely...
Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a slow gradual process. Darwin wrote, "…Natural selection acts only by taking advantage of slight successive variations; she can never take a great and sudden leap, but must advance by short and sure, though slow steps." [1] Thus, Darwin conceded that, "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down." [2] Such a complex organ would be known as an "irreducibly complex system". An irreducibly complex system is one composed of multiple parts, all of which are necessary for the system to function. If even one part is missing, the entire system will fail to function. Every individual part is integral. [3] Thus, such a system could not have evolved slowly, piece by piece. The common mousetrap is an everyday non-biological example of irreducible complexity. It is composed of five basic parts: a catch (to hold the bait), a powerful spring, a thin rod called "the hammer," a holding bar to secure the hammer in place, and a platform to mount the trap. If any one of these parts is missing, the mechanism will not work. Each individual part is integral. The mousetrap is irreducibly complex. [4]
Darwin's Theory of Evolution - A Theory In Crisis
Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a theory in crisis in light of the tremendous advances we've made in molecular biology, biochemistry and genetics over the past fifty years. We now know that there are in fact tens of thousands of irreducibly complex systems on the cellular level. Specified complexity pervades the microscopic biological world. Molecular biologist Michael Denton wrote, "Although the tiniest bacterial cells are incredibly small, weighing less than 10-12 grams, each is in effect a veritable micro-miniaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery, made up altogether of one hundred thousand million atoms, far more complicated than any machinery built by man and absolutely without parallel in the non-living world." [5]
And we don't need a microscope to observe irreducible complexity. The eye, the ear and the heart are all examples of irreducible complexity, though they were not recognized as such in Darwin's day. Nevertheless, Darwin confessed, "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree." [6]
And Matt, your paste is the meeting point between science and religion...the two can walk in harmony!
As with every issue, we need to look at the things we agree upon and be tolerant and seek to understand others on the things we are not ready to agree about.
To me evolution is very easy to accept, if along with the theory, I can feel deep in my heart and soul that it was a divine plan that created the process.
As with every issue, we need to look at the things we agree upon and be tolerant and seek to understand others on the things we are not ready to agree about.
To me evolution is very easy to accept, if along with the theory, I can feel deep in my heart and soul that it was a divine plan that created the process.
Thank you sir. when I paste I have less speling errors, I try to keep up with my mouthProf said:
thats a hard thing to do. This is a from the gospel of thomas but if people read it without bias and actualy read the words and its meaning. The only thing that hold us back is us.And He said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death." Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he (or she) will rule over the all."
Jesus said, " If those who lead you say to you, 'See the kingdom is in the sky,'then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather the kingdom is inside of you and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the living sons of the Father. But if you will not know yourselvesyou dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
Yeshua said, " The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last,and they will become one and the same."
Jesus said, " Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
Knowledge is the real power whether your learning from an Institution such as the good Prof teaches or if you have the motivation to learn on your own, both by the way are a form evolution if I am not mistaken.
DevilDawg3097 said:Oh I agree with you, but to those who havent studied but try to teach or explain it that dont have a clue, you get moneky to man. Id darwins theory was taught correctly religous and scientific zealouts would see the both in a way cohere together. Just my opin
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Who might you be referring to?
I may be jumping the gun, but I hope you werent talking about me, I can play cut and paste but I would use articles from this century. Just because Darwin couldn't put the whole idea together doesn't mean that it may not be fact. Einstein thought the cosmological constant was his biggest failure and admitted as much, only now do we realize he was more than likely correct about it.
Forgive me if your quote wasn't directed at me but I can only assume it was as I am the only one fighting the monkey theory.
Forgive me if your quote wasn't directed at me but I can only assume it was as I am the only one fighting the monkey theory.
I see no actual conflict between science and spirituality.....
I only see conflict between agendas..........
God and science are in perfect harmony. We just can't it see through our prejudices.....
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I only see conflict between agendas..........
God and science are in perfect harmony. We just can't it see through our prejudices.....
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bigike
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coxis
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Latin
Noun
coxīs f.
dative plural of coxa
ablative plural of coxa
Translation Latin - Thai : coxus
Translation
1 กะพร่องกะแพร่ง
2 ขจอก
3 ขัดยอก
4 ขากะเผลก
5 ขาเสีย
6 อ่อนแอ
This article is about the tailbone in humans. For the tailbone in animals, see Rump (croup).
Bone: Coccyx
The coccyx is formed of up to five vertebrae.
Latin os coccygis
Gray's subject #24 186
MeSH Coccyx
The coccyx (IPA: /ˈkɒksɪks/, KOK-siks), commonly referred to as the tailbone, is the final segment of the human vertebral column. Comprising three to five separate or fused vertebrae (the coccygeal vertebrae) below the sacrum, it is attached to the sacrum by a fibrocartilaginous joint, the sacrococcygeal symphysis, which permits limited movement between the sacrum and the coccyx.
The term coccyx comes originally from the Greek language and means "cuckoo", referring to the curved shape of a cuckoo's beak when viewed from the side.[1]
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* 1 Function
* 2 Structure
o 2.1 Surfaces
o 2.2 Borders
o 2.3 Apex
o 2.4 Sacrococcygeal and intercoccygeal joints
* 3 Pathology
* 4 Additional images
* 5 See also
* 6 Notes
* 7 References
* 8 External links
[edit] Function
In humans and other tailless primates (e.g. great apes) since Nakalipithecus (a Miocene hominoid)[2], the coccyx is the remnant of a vestigial tail, but still not entirely useless;[3] it is an important attachment for various muscles, tendons and ligaments — which makes it important for physicians and patients to remember the importance of these attachments when considering surgical removal of the coccyx.[1] Additionally, it is also part of the weight-bearing tripod structure which act as a support for a sitting person. When a person sits leaning forward, the ischial tuberosities and inferior rami of the ischium take most of the weight, but as the sitting person leans backward, more weight is transferred to the coccyx.[1]
The anterior side of the coccyx serves for the attachment of a group of muscles important for many functions of the pelvic floor (i.e. defecation, continence, etc): The levator ani muscle, which include coccygeus, iliococcygeus, and pubococcygeus. Through the anococcygeal raphé, the coccyx supports the position of the anus. Attached to the posterior side is gluteus maximus which extend the thigh during ambulation.[1]
Many important ligaments attach to the coccyx: The anterior and posterior sacrococcygeal ligaments are the continuations of the anterior and posterior longitudinal ligaments that stretches along the entire spine.[1] Additionally, the lateral sacrococcygeal ligaments complete the foramina for the last sacral nerve.[4] And, lastly, some fibers of the sacrospinous and sacrotuberous ligaments (arising from the spine of the ischium and the ischial tuberosity respectively) also attach to the coccyx.[1]
[edit] Structure
The coccyx is usually formed of four rudimentary vertebrae (sometimes five or three). It articulates superiorly with the sacrum. In each of the first three segments may be traced a rudimentary body and articular and transverse processes; the last piece (sometimes the third) is a mere nodule of bone. The transverse processes is most prominent and noticeable on the first coccygeal segment. All the segments are destitute of pedicles, laminae and spinous processes. The first is the largest; it resembles the lowest sacral vertebra, and often exists as a separate piece; the last three diminish in size from above downward.
Most anatomy books wrongly state that the coccyx is normally fused in adults. In fact it has been shown[5][6] that the coccyx may consist of up to five separate bony segments, the most common configuration being two or three segments. Only about 5 percent[not in citation given] of the population have a coccyx in one piece, separate from the sacrum, as described in anatomy books.
[edit] Surfaces
The anterior surface is slightly concave and marked with three transverse grooves that indicate the junctions of the different segments. It gives attachment to the anterior sacrococcygeal ligament and the Levatores ani and supports part of the rectum.
The posterior surface is convex, marked by transverse grooves similar to those on the anterior surface, and presents on either side a linear row of tubercles, the rudimentary articular processes of the coccygeal vertebrae. Of these, the superior pair are large, and are called the coccygeal cornua; they project upward, and articulate with the cornua of the sacrum, and on either side complete the foramen for the transmission of the posterior division of the fifth sacral nerve.
[edit] Borders
The lateral borders are thin and exhibit a series of small eminences, which represent the transverse processes of the coccygeal vertebrae. Of these, the first is the largest; it is flattened from before backward, and often ascends to join the lower part of the thin lateral edge of the sacrum, thus completing the foramen for the transmission of the anterior division of the fifth sacral nerve; the others diminish in size from above downward, and are often wanting. The borders of the coccyx are narrow, and give attachment on either side to the sacrotuberous and sacrospinous ligaments, to the coccygeus in front of the ligaments, and to the gluteus maximus behind them.
[edit] Apex
The apex is rounded, and has attached to it the tendon of the Sphincter ani externus. It may be bifid.
[edit] Sacrococcygeal and intercoccygeal joints
The joints are variable and may be: (1) synovial joints; (2) thin discs of fibrocartilage; (3) intermediate between these two; (4) ossified.[7][8]
[edit] Pathology
Injuring the coccyx can give rise to a condition called coccydynia.[9] [10] A number of tumors are known to involve the coccyx; of these, the most common is sacrococcygeal teratoma. Both coccydynia and coccygeal tumors may require surgical removal of the coccyx (coccygectomy). One complication of cocygectomy is a coccygeal hernia.[11] Fortunately, most cases of coccyx pain respond well to nonsurgical treatment, such as medications given by local injection (often done under fluoroscopic guidance).
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jelms
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Sorry I am jumping in on this one so late. So let me get this one straight.... Are some people trying to say that we homo sapient are descended directly from apes??? Sorry but we are not. We have a common ancestor but we are not an offspring of an ape.
To try and state that is completely wrong.
-jeff
To try and state that is completely wrong.
-jeff
No I was refering to schools and such, there are just too many teachers who shouldnt be teaching especially children. It is kinda as backwards at Prof's level of teaching the have alot of checks and balances in place to protect young adults and adults but there is no checks in place for teachers in the elementary and junior high level. Also religous zealouts I was refering to was people like the pope and that putz athesit scientist I forgot his name, but it is postions like that where the truth gets twisted to what they want.Demon 8 said:
Yuo Jumping the GunDemon 8 said:
No worries brother.:marchmellow:
Matt your point about bad teachers is a problem at all levels.
At the college level, the two major contributing factors (among a long list) in my opinion are Tenure and Unions. Both perpetuate and hide incompetence.
Below the collegiate level there is still the protectionist attitude of unions, but the other problem is lack on persistent involvement of concerned parents. So many parents view school as a place to dump their kids during the day.
Quality education with outstanding teachers and the ability to remove poor performing teachers could solve a huge number of our problems.
At the college level, the two major contributing factors (among a long list) in my opinion are Tenure and Unions. Both perpetuate and hide incompetence.
Below the collegiate level there is still the protectionist attitude of unions, but the other problem is lack on persistent involvement of concerned parents. So many parents view school as a place to dump their kids during the day.
Quality education with outstanding teachers and the ability to remove poor performing teachers could solve a huge number of our problems.
supercar1of1
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Prof said:
100%:rock:
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I went back to my old high school about 10 yrs ago. Hadn't seen it in about 30 years.Prof said:
Many of my old teachers were still there.... Those who (in the 1960's) seemed to dislike me intensely came over to shake my hand and welcome me.... I asked why the change of heart.... One of them said that compared to the kids today, I was a model citizen..... Another common comparison was that, "at least you spoke English and never threatened me to kill me at the point of a blade."
I noticed that many of the kids were sleeping during class. I asked why. The response was that they didn't speak English anyway and that the teachers didn't speak Spanish, Viet Namese or whatever the kid's native language happened to be. They just take these kids and shove 'em into high schools without regard for the language barrier.....
Is this how we prepare kids for college...........?
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HOT RAM
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jelms said:
Might that "common ancestor" just possibly be The Creator Himself ? :dontknow:
supercar1of1
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Django said:
It is my understanding that college isn't what it used to be either.
Many institutions issue "SUB-PRIME DEGREE'S" to go with the "SUB-PRIME MORTGAGES."
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supercar1of1
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Django said:
Are you sure your teacher wasn't mistaken, I thought there were "RULES" against students having knives in school, and "LAWS" against threatening
people with one? :dontknow:
Maybe we need more knife control laws.
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supercar1of1 said:
Are you sure your teacher wasn't mistaken, I thought there were "RULES" against students having knives in school, and "LAWS" against threatening
people with one? :dontknow:
Maybe we need more knife control laws.
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What we really need is a "thugometer"........... oops..... sorry... that would be profiling.
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well parents where gonna be the next thing. But you hit the nail right in the head brother, I can even see the differance in the way my brothers raise there kids. But I was talking more about the incompetance of school boards who some parents get on just to try to make things easier for there kid.Prof said:
I dont know about you but when my dad beat my ass 10 out of 10 tens I deserved it and if a teacher called the house or wrote a note you can beat I paid for it, not oh my kid is an angel he did not do that. now kids in the 3 and 4th grade are forging and changing grades.
WTF I didnt start that until HS At least some of you older guys dont take offense won't have to be around when they are running things.:dontknow: :argh: Can we all agree the world is going to hell on an express elevator. And Roy the teachers union is not the only one that protects incompetance. Because there are plenty of people in mine that should not be allwoed with in ten feet of a piece of heavy equipment, it is all about the benji's imo
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